Ever had a supernatural experience?

Quote from axeman:

See Shoe.... here you show your true colors.
You SHOULD consider ALL explanations as possibly being false.
Thats how critical thinkers and scientists work.

.....

Kinda like the crop circle guys who swore they were alien created.
Then, lo and behold!!! A bunch of dudes ADMIT it was all a hoax
and have a detailed photographic record of their art work
over the decades. :D
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That's because you don't live here and you haven't read her story.

Here is a quote from her: "I took mental note of every nuance - size, shape, color, distance. Each sphere was an oval, between 3 and 6 feet across. The orbs seemed to be hovering motionlessly in perfect symmetry, one on top, and the other two aligned underneath, like a pyramid. The soothing amber light contained with in each orb looked different from any light I had ever seen. It didn't glare at all, and was uniform throughout, reminding me of a holiday luinaria that shines from within, without the light extending beyond the edge."

This occurred, according to her story, approximately 100 yards from her balcony.

I know roughly where she lives and it's dead center in the middle of the city. Either this lady is a liar (as are the 100's of other Phoenicians) or it's true. This was not military balloons or flares.

Again, why do you feel obligated to comment about something about which you have no knowledge?
 
My first post to this thread was an answer to hapas
question... I answered NO, ive had NO supernatural experiences
and then commented on it.

*YOU* then replied and claimed I was trying to turn this
into a religion debate (Which you later edited to say a
philosophical debate), and a debate ensued.

So you can blame yourself for turning this into a debate. :D


Besides, I think you are giving me WAAAAY to much credit as
far as preventing people from speaking their mind.
I dont have duct tape on anyones mouth here, promise :D

peace

axeman


Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

Yes, you are. If anyone posts an experience, you're all over it with peanut gallery comments about it's probable falsity and the writer's obvious self-deception. Then comes the Amazing Randi...

Again, what is the point? Nobody is preaching on here. Nobody is trying to convert anyone else.

Can't you save the comments for another thread?
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Quote from Gordon Gekko:

axeman and rowenwood: glad to see you in this thread! :cool:

p. s. i had a grandmother that claimed to see ghosts. lol maybe i will, too, when i'm like 92. :D
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Thank you and likewise. Though I must leave you and axe to this god idiot bashing. Maybe I'll return later, I always do.
 
Huh??? Thats because I havent read her story?
WHATS because I havent read her story?
Your not making any sense here.

Again, why do you feel obligated to comment about something about which you have no knowledge?

I DIDNT COMMENT ON THE STORY!! Try quoting me, I dare ya. :D
Your reading into things which simply are NOT even there :confused:

I only commented on how YOU respond to stories like these.
Immediately assuming supernatural reasons when there is
no reason to do so.



peace

axeman



Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

That's because you don't live here and you haven't read her story.

Here is a quote from her: "I took mental note of every nuance - size, shape, color, distance. Each sphere was an oval, between 3 and 6 feet across. The orbs seemed to be hovering motionlessly in perfect symmetry, one on top, and the other two aligned underneath, like a pyramid. The soothing amber light contained with in each orb looked different from any light I had ever seen. It didn't glare at all, and was uniform throughout, reminding me of a holiday luinaria that shines from within, without the light extending beyond the edge."

This occurred, according to her story, approximately 100 yards from her balcony.

I know roughly where she lives and it's dead center in the middle of the city. Either this lady is a liar (as are the 100's of other Phoenicians) or it's true. This was not military balloons or flares.

Again, why do you feel obligated to comment about something about which you have no knowledge?
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Quote from axeman:


Just for you, Axe, another story: my father went to a Rabbi who proceeded to tell him about something that happened to my father 40 years ago, which my father just happened to never have told a soul. My father had never seen this Rabbi before. Care to explain that :)?
Hearsay. Im not required to explain anything.
If you are asserting there is something supernatural
involved, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it.
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Uh, actually not hearsay. I told you it happened to my father. So unless you want to call me or my father a liar, then yes, the burden of proof is on you :)
 
Exactly.... you HEARD it from your FATHER, and now your
SAYING it to me. The definition of HEARSAY precisely.
Thank you for verifying this is hearsay.


And no.... this does not put the burden of proof on ME.
You are making supernatural claims... please provide evidence,
or admit you dont have any.

Once again... arguing from ignorance.

To this point, all you have produced are unverified stories
told to you by other people.

This is no way constitutes evidence of any sort.



peace

axeman



Quote from MarketRabbi:

Uh, actually not hearsay. I told you it happened to my father. So unless you want to call me or my father a liar, then yes, the burden of proof is on you :)
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Once again, Axe, are you saying me or my father are lying? I'd like a yes or no answer, please, if it's not too hard.

Now, as it happens to be, I do know a statistician :). But I just realised there's be no point in me asking him anything, because once I TOLD you what I HEARD from him, that would once again only be hearsay, right :)?
 
Axe, I had a great idea. I'm willing to give you my father's phone number. That way you could talk to him yourself, and it wouldn't be hearsay anymore, right? I'm totally serious.
 
When you are lying, you are purposefully deceiving someone.
So I do not think you are lying. So the answer is NO.

As for your statistician friend, an anonymous statisticians answer
posted to this board would indeed be worthless hearsay.
Have him log on with his real name and POST directly what
the statisitcal relevance is between the sick child and the rabbi.

But I already know the answer to the question and can verify it with
NUMEROUS statisticians as well as look it up in any basic statistics book.
No statistician in his right mind would claim your SINGLE DATA
point concerning the rabbi and the sick girl held ANY statistical
relevance whatsoever.


peace

axeman



Quote from MarketRabbi:

Once again, Axe, are you saying me or my father are lying? I'd like a yes or no answer, please, if it's not too hard.

Now, as it happens to be, I do know a statistician :). But I just realised there's be no point in me asking him anything, because once I TOLD you what I HEARD from him, that would once again only be hearsay, right :)?
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Doesnt solve the problem. He could swear up and down that
he visited this rabbi and that the girl got better and that
could be TOTALLY true.

However, it does NOT tell us that what the rabbi did
is RESPONSIBLE for the girl getting better.

That is my point. You have no proof of a correlation there.

peace

axeman



Quote from MarketRabbi:

Axe, I had a great idea. I'm willing to give you my father's phone number. That way you could talk to him yourself, and it wouldn't be hearsay anymore, right? I'm totally serious.
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