No, dummies. As a child, I got both chicken pox and measles growing up. I developed natural immunity to both after I had it. I did not need any vaccines. GWB, wanna be doctor is so full of BS, lies and disinformation, so with his fellow cohorts of ET trolls. What are you assclowns going to do when you and your families catch a serious case of Corona Virus requiring hospitalization? Obviously, you will get the standard care given thru CDC guidelines and if it gets worse, you get intubation as well. Fine by me because your BS and lies will not save your asses ET trolls.
Eventually Those With Natural Immunity ‘Need to Get Vaccinated’
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Smallfil the Troll,
When you were young, America's school system required vaccination proof (card) that showed you were vaccinated against chickenpox and measles to be able to access our education system.
If you were not, you were not allowed to attend the education system (public or private) in North America. In addition, you weren't allowed to play organized sports at elementary, Jr. high, high school nor college level.
In my youth, attending schools in North America...Kentucky, South Dakota, and Illinois...only vaccines for Hepatitis and the Flu were not mandatory to attend schools. They were optional and most Doctors gave kids vaccinations for that too. In fact, they came to the schools in small colorful trucks that looked like ice cream trucks about a month prior to the start of the fall school year for anyone that needed to be vaccinated.
Also, we had eye exams / hearing exams via similar mobile trucks too.
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In 1977, the U.S. federal government set up the Childhood Immunization InitiativeTrusted Source aimed at increasing vaccination rates in children against the seven diseases for which vaccines are routinely given in childhood, including:
Today, all states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. territories have vaccination requirements for children to attend school and childcare facilities. State laws establish vaccination requirements, as well as mechanisms for enforcement and rules for exemption...
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Let's pretend you're a teenager posting here @ Elitetrader.com
You would then add the below mandatory vaccines to the above list for access to our education school system in North America...
Thus, you were vaccinated unless you never attended schools in North America. The exception to growing up in North America were those that grew up in an anti-vaccine commune (we called them cults back then) and the parents home schooled their children to avoid the mandatory vaccinations.
In fact, there was an outbreak in the area because of those anti-vaccine asswipes. It resulted in the public health agency requiring parents to bring their children's vaccination card on the day of enrollment along with a signed letter from the Doctor that verified we were vaccinated against the disease that caused the outbreak...
This was in Kentucky...not some liberal state.
wrbtrader
When you were young, America's school system required vaccination proof (card) that showed you were vaccinated against chickenpox and measles to be able to access our education system.
If you were not, you were not allowed to attend the education system (public or private) in North America. In addition, you weren't allowed to play organized sports at elementary, Jr. high, high school nor college level.
- In contrast, if you grew up outside of North America...there are many countries that did not use compulsory vaccine mandates for access to their education system.
In my youth, attending schools in North America...Kentucky, South Dakota, and Illinois...only vaccines for Hepatitis and the Flu were not mandatory to attend schools. They were optional and most Doctors gave kids vaccinations for that too. In fact, they came to the schools in small colorful trucks that looked like ice cream trucks about a month prior to the start of the fall school year for anyone that needed to be vaccinated.
Also, we had eye exams / hearing exams via similar mobile trucks too.
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In 1977, the U.S. federal government set up the Childhood Immunization InitiativeTrusted Source aimed at increasing vaccination rates in children against the seven diseases for which vaccines are routinely given in childhood, including:
- diphtheria
- measles
- mumps
- pertussis
- poliomyelitis
- rubella
- tetanus
Today, all states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. territories have vaccination requirements for children to attend school and childcare facilities. State laws establish vaccination requirements, as well as mechanisms for enforcement and rules for exemption...
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Let's pretend you're a teenager posting here @ Elitetrader.com
You would then add the below mandatory vaccines to the above list for access to our education school system in North America...
- Chickenpox
- Whooping cough
- Hepatitis
- HIB and meningococcal meningitis
Thus, you were vaccinated unless you never attended schools in North America. The exception to growing up in North America were those that grew up in an anti-vaccine commune (we called them cults back then) and the parents home schooled their children to avoid the mandatory vaccinations.
- Those kids had chickenpox, measles but also other dangerous diseases because their parents believed in Natural Immunity.
In fact, there was an outbreak in the area because of those anti-vaccine asswipes. It resulted in the public health agency requiring parents to bring their children's vaccination card on the day of enrollment along with a signed letter from the Doctor that verified we were vaccinated against the disease that caused the outbreak...
This was in Kentucky...not some liberal state.
wrbtrader
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Sesame Street Big Bird has been getting vaccinated since 1972 against Measles...now he's vaccinated against Covid-19. Another proof of the U.S. vaccinated policy from the 1970s even though it's been a policy since the George Washington days when he demanded his troops be vaccinated.
Go Big Bird
wrbtrader
Go Big Bird
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Today I heard a little kid in the grocery store telling her mom that "Big Bird is now protected".
I think the kid was 5 - 6 years old. That tells me that word spreads fast around the world considering I'm currently not in the United States.
I don't remember that episode but accordingly to my mom...I watched Sesame Street every day at 5 years old. Yet, when we were vaccinated back then against Measles...we were given a lollipop (not a ballon).
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How do you know smallfil is old enough to remember those times? You are ASS-U-ME-ing! Shame!
If he's older than 100 years...he may easily be confused about the United States mandatory vaccines history.
You can blame George Washington because he's the first to demand vaccination of our continental troops against smallpox in the revolutionary war. He understood how deadly smallpox was and if you survive...he understood the ordeal of surviving the sickness.
Many Presidents after George Washington and before President Biden understood the importance of vaccination to protect our troops.
A disease like smallpox or Covid can weaken a country's ability to defend itself against any enemy (war).
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As demonstrated by earlier studies, another study shows that natural immunity for Covid does not last in most people. Same issue with the current generation of Covid vaccines. The study confirms that hybrid immunity provides the best protection. However being unvaccinated and getting Covid has a much higher risk of death & serious illness than being vaccinated with boosters.
COVID-19: One in three infected, unvaccinated people no longer have detectable antibodies one year after infection
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-09-covid-infected-unvaccinated-people-longer.html
A prospective seroprevalence study in the Catalan population underlines the need to get vaccinated despite having been infected, and confirms that hybrid immunity (vaccination plus infection) is more robust and long-lasting. The study has been published in BMC Medicine.
Both infection and vaccination against SARS-CoV-2 contribute to building a population's immunity to the virus—an important factor for deciding when and to whom booster shots should be offered. Although immunity against a pathogen is more than antibodies, the easiest strategy for assessing population immunity is to perform seroepidemiological studies (i.e., quantifying virus-specific antibodies in a given population group).
"Most of the serological studies performed after COVID-19 vaccination focused on specific groups such as healthcare workers, did not distinguish between people with or without previous infection, or did not have clinical and immunological data of the infection," explains Manolis Kogevinas, ISGlobal researcher and senior co-author of the study together with Carlota Dobaño, also researcher at ISGlobal.
In this study, the research team performed a second measurement in a population-based cohort from Catalonia (COVICAT study—GCAT cohort) six months after the start of the vaccination campaign (the first one was just after the first confinement), to monitor the level and type of antibodies against five viral antigens (the whole Spike protein, the RBD receptor binding domain, the S2 fragment, the full nucleocaspid [N] protein, or the N-terminal fragment). They also used information from a questionnaire and health records to identify potential factors that determine the magnitude and duration of the antibody response in unvaccinated, vaccinated, or vaccinated and infected persons. In total, 1,076 people, aged 43 to 72 years, were included in the analysis.
The results yielded three main conclusions: First, that in 36% of infected but unvaccinated persons, antibodies were no longer detectable almost a year after the infection, particularly in those older than 60 years and who were smokers.
Second, that vaccination induced significantly higher antibody levels in people who had had a prior infection, as compared to those without prior infection; and that these levels were strongly associated with the magnitude of the response during the infection. "Our data underscore the importance of vaccinating people even if they have been previously infected, and confirm that hybrid immunity is superior and more durable. This means that people who have been vaccinated but have not been infected would need a booster earlier than those who have," points out Marianna Karachaliou, first author of the study together with Gemma Moncunill.
Third, the factor most strongly associated with the level of antibodies is the type of vaccine—Moderna's Spikevax generated the highest levels of antibodies. Other factors also appear to play a role: People older than 60 or with mental illness had lower antibody levels post-vaccination. "The association between mental health and antibody responses requires further investigation, but it is known that people with disorders such as depression, chronic stress or schizophrenia have a lower response to vaccination in general," explains Dobaño.
Among those vaccinated, only 2.1% had no antibodies at the time of testing and approximately 1% had a breakthrough infection. "However, it should be noted that this study was done before the omicron variant became dominant," warns Kogevinas.
COVID-19: One in three infected, unvaccinated people no longer have detectable antibodies one year after infection
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-09-covid-infected-unvaccinated-people-longer.html
A prospective seroprevalence study in the Catalan population underlines the need to get vaccinated despite having been infected, and confirms that hybrid immunity (vaccination plus infection) is more robust and long-lasting. The study has been published in BMC Medicine.
Both infection and vaccination against SARS-CoV-2 contribute to building a population's immunity to the virus—an important factor for deciding when and to whom booster shots should be offered. Although immunity against a pathogen is more than antibodies, the easiest strategy for assessing population immunity is to perform seroepidemiological studies (i.e., quantifying virus-specific antibodies in a given population group).
"Most of the serological studies performed after COVID-19 vaccination focused on specific groups such as healthcare workers, did not distinguish between people with or without previous infection, or did not have clinical and immunological data of the infection," explains Manolis Kogevinas, ISGlobal researcher and senior co-author of the study together with Carlota Dobaño, also researcher at ISGlobal.
In this study, the research team performed a second measurement in a population-based cohort from Catalonia (COVICAT study—GCAT cohort) six months after the start of the vaccination campaign (the first one was just after the first confinement), to monitor the level and type of antibodies against five viral antigens (the whole Spike
The results yielded three main conclusions: First, that in 36% of infected but unvaccinated persons, antibodies were no longer detectable almost a year after the infection, particularly in those older than 60 years and who were smokers.
Second, that vaccination induced significantly higher antibody levels in people who had had a prior infection, as compared to those without prior infection; and that these levels were strongly associated with the magnitude of the response during the infection. "Our data underscore the importance of vaccinating people even if they have been previously infected, and confirm that hybrid immunity is superior and more durable. This means that people who have been vaccinated but have not been infected would need a booster earlier than those who have," points out Marianna Karachaliou, first author of the study together with Gemma Moncunill.
Third, the factor most strongly associated with the level of antibodies is the type of vaccine—Moderna's Spikevax generated the highest levels of antibodies. Other factors also appear to play a role: People older than 60 or with mental illness had lower antibody levels post-vaccination. "The association between mental health and antibody responses requires further investigation, but it is known that people with disorders such as depression, chronic stress or schizophrenia have a lower response to vaccination in general," explains Dobaño.
Among those vaccinated, only 2.1% had no antibodies at the time of testing and approximately 1% had a breakthrough infection. "However, it should be noted that this study was done before the omicron variant became dominant," warns Kogevinas.