Even the Pope sides with Futurecurrents

[stu]

If AGW was right then you would be able to find one.... just one peer reviewed scientific paper explicitly stating it exists beyond all doubt.

No scientific paper on any scientific subject explicitly states something exists beyond all doubt. You should first understand how science works. Science is proof without certainty.

The fundamental basic scientific principles that support AGW have not been made false by any other scientific principles, theories or proposals. Nor is it going to be by 1350 pieces of skeptical commentary sometimes claiming it is science, when often it is no such thing.

So like the great man said and it remains so, one would be enough.

 

[piezoe]

Politicians, businessmen, engineers, and scores of self-proclaimed researchers also raised strong objections, made controversial comments and produced many absurd reasons against Einstein's Relativity, and it's just the same with AGW. But none of it has changed or made false the fundamental underlying science that supports both of them respectively.

I don't know anything about this relativity business you mention. In the scientific business, my racket, it is completely accepted as correct. But Hansen's hypothesis is a completely different matter. In the scientific community opinion is very divided regarding whether or not there is positive feedback and whether anthropomorphic CO2, at certain levels, is going to lead to catastrophic warming. There are highly respected atmospheric physicists and meteorologists on both sides of the issue. The media is mostly on one side and the politicians are on two sides depending on their party, and of course corporations come down on what ever side is best for profits. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Scientific matters are decided by mother nature, and man's job is to find out what mother nature has decided. I just wish that the Hansen hypothesis had never become "climate change". That's actually ridiculous. Climate is never completely static. This shows you the extreme politicization of this issue. That's no way to do science.

 

[piezoe]

I sent a physicist colleague the citation to Ferenc Miskolczi's paper. If he as an opinion on it, I'll let you guys know what it is.

 

[futurecurrents]

I don't know anything about this relativity business you mention. In the scientific business, my racket, it is completely accepted as correct. But Hansen's hypothesis is a completely different matter. In the scientific community opinion is very divided regarding whether or not there is positive feedback and whether anthropomorphic CO2, at certain levels, is going to lead to catastrophic warming. There are highly respected atmospheric physicists and meteorologists on both sides of the issue. The media is mostly on one side and the politicians are on two sides depending on their party, and of course corporations come down on what ever side is best for profits. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Scientific matters are decided by mother nature, and man's job is to find out what mother nature has decided. I just wish that the Hansen hypothesis had never become "climate change". That's actually ridiculous. Climate is never completely static. This shows you the extreme politicization of this issue. That's no way to do science.

No, among the scientific community opinion is NOT divided about the feedback being positive. Virtually everything you say about this matter is either obfuscation, half truth or outright lie. If you really are a scientist you are a particularly clueless one on climate change.

Have you ever read this book ?

Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming

It tells the story of how a loose-knit group of high-level scientists and scientific advisers, with deep connections in politics and industry, ran effective campaigns to mislead the public and deny well-established scientific knowledge over four decades. The same individuals who claim the science of global warming is "not settled" have also denied the truth about studies linking smoking to lung cancer, coal smoke to acid rain, and CFCs to the ozone hole. "Doubt is our product," wrote one tobacco executive. These "experts" supplied it.

In particular, they say that Fred Seitz, Fred Singer, and a few other contrarian scientists joined forces with conservative think tanks and private corporations to challenge the scientific consensus on many contemporary issues.[2]

 

[jem]

If you are going to cite some debunked studies... before you post it here... make sure it says man made co2 causes warming. That is very different than saying man is causing warming.


31000 scientists are skeptical.
Nasa rocket scientists are skeptical



Scientists questioning the accuracy of IPCC climate projections
These scientists have said that it is not possible to project global climate accurately enough to justify the ranges projected for temperature and sea-level rise over the next century. They may not conclude specifically that the current IPCC projections are either too high or too low, but that the projections are likely to be inaccurate due to inadequacies of current global climate modeling.

• David Bellamy, botanist.[19][20][21][22]
• Lennart Bengtsson, meteorologist, Reading University.[23][24]
• Piers Corbyn, owner of the business WeatherAction which makes weather forecasts.[25][26]
• Judith Curry, Professor and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.[27][28][29][30]
• Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society.[31][32]
• Ivar Giaever, Norwegian–American physicist and Nobel laureate in physics (1973).[33]
• Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University.[34][35]
• Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences.[36][37][38][39]
• Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement.[40][41][42][43][44][45][46]
• Ross McKitrick, Professor of Economics and CBE Chair in Sustainable Commerce, University of Guelph.[47][48]
• Patrick Moore, former president of Greenpeace Canada.[49][50][51]
• Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics Department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999–2003).[52][53]
• Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow Australian National University.[54][55]
• Roger A. Pielke, Jr., professor of environmental studies at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado at Boulder.[56][57]
• Tom Quirk, corporate director of biotech companies and former board member of the Institute of Public Affairs, an Australian conservative think-tank.[58]
• Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics at University of Ottawa, research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and soil science.[59][60][61][62]
• Harrison Schmitt, geologist, Apollo 17 Astronaut, former U.S. Senator.[63]
• Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry at Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm.[64][65]
• Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London.[66][67]
• Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute.[68][69]
• Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.[70][71]
• Fritz Vahrenholt, German politician and energy executive with a doctorate in chemistry.[72][73]

Scientists arguing that global warming is primarily caused by natural processes

Graph showing the ability with which a global climate model is able to reconstruct the historical temperature record, and the degree to which those temperature changes can be decomposed into various forcing factors. It shows the effects of five forcing factors: greenhouse gases, man-made sulfate emissions, solar variability, ozone changes, and volcanic emissions.[74]
These scientists have said that the observed warming is more likely to be attributable to natural causes than to human activities. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles.

• Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences[75][76]
• Sallie Baliunas, retired astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[77][78][79]
• Timothy Ball, historical climatologist, and retired professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg[80][81][82]
• Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[83][84]
• Chris de Freitas, associate professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland[85][86]
• David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester[87][88]
• Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University[89][90]
• William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy; emeritus professor, Princeton University[91][92]
• Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo[93][94]
• Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm.[95][96]
• William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology[97][98]
• David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware[99][100]
• Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Missouri[101][102]
• Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[103][104]
• Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.[105][106]
• Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of Adelaide.[107][108]
• Arthur B. Robinson, American politician, biochemist and former faculty member at the University of California, San Diego[109][110]
• Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie University and University of Colorado[111][112]
• Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University[113][114][115]
• Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo[116][117]
• Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem[118][119]
• Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia[120][121][122][123]
• Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[124][125]
• Roy Spencer, meteorologist; principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville[126][127]
• Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center[128][129]
• George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University[130][131]
• Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa[132][133]

Scientists arguing that the cause of global warming is unknown
These scientists have said that no principal cause can be ascribed to the observed rising temperatures, whether man-made or natural.

• Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and founding director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks.[134][135]
• Claude Allègre, French politician; geochemist, emeritus professor at Institute of Geophysics (Paris).[136][137]
• Robert Balling, a professor of geography at Arizona State University.[138][139]
• Pål Brekke, solar astrophycisist, senior advisor Norwegian Space Centre.[140][141]
• John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCC reports.[142][143][144]
• Petr Chylek, space and remote sensing sciences researcher, Los Alamos National Laboratory.[145][146]
• David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma.[147][148]
• Vincent R. Gray, New Zealand physical chemist with expertise in coal ashes[149][150]
• Keith E. Idso, botanist, former adjunct professor of biology at Maricopa County Community College District and the vice president of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change[151][152]
• Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists.[153][154]
• Kary Mullis, 1993 Nobel Laureate in Chemistry.[155]

Scientists arguing that global warming will have few negative consequences
These scientists have said that projected rising temperatures will be of little impact or a net positive for society or the environment.

• Indur M. Goklany, science and technology policy analyst for the United States Department of the Interior[156][157][158]
• Craig D. Idso, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change [159][160]
• Sherwood B. Idso, former research physicist, USDA Water Conservation Laboratory, and adjunct professor, Arizona State University[161][162]
• Patrick Michaels, senior fellow at the Cato Institute and retired research professor of environmental science at the University of Virginia[163][164]

Deceased scientists
This section includes deceased scientists who would otherwise be listed in the prior sections.

• August H. "Augie" Auer Jr. (1940–2007), retired New Zealand MetService meteorologist and past professor of atmospheric science at the University of Wyoming[165]
• Reid Bryson (1920–2008), emeritus professor of atmospheric and oceanic sciences, University of Wisconsin-Madison.[166]
• Robert M. Carter (1942–2016), former head of the School of Earth Sciences at James Cook University[167][168]
• William M. Gray (1929–2016), professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University[169][170]
• Robert Jastrow (1925–2008), American astronomer, physicist, cosmologist and leading NASA scientist who, together with Fred Seitz and William Nierenberg, established the George C. Marshall Institute[171][172][173]
• Harold ("Hal") Warren Lewis (1923–2011), emeritus professor of physics and former department chairman at the University of California, Santa Barbara.[174]
• Frederick Seitz (1911–2008), solid-state physicist, former president of the National Academy of Sciences and co-founder of the George C. Marshall Institute in 1984.[166][175]

No, among the scientific community opinion is NOT divided about the feedback being positive. Virtually everything you say about this matter is either obfuscation, half truth or outright lie. If you really are a scientist you are a particularly clueless one on climate change.

Have you ever read this book ?

Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming

It tells the story of how a loose-knit group of high-level scientists and scientific advisers, with deep connections in politics and industry, ran effective campaigns to mislead the public and deny well-established scientific knowledge over four decades. The same individuals who claim the science of global warming is "not settled" have also denied the truth about studies linking smoking to lung cancer, coal smoke to acid rain, and CFCs to the ozone hole. "Doubt is our product," wrote one tobacco executive. These "experts" supplied it.

In particular, they say that Fred Seitz, Fred Singer, and a few other contrarian scientists joined forces with conservative think tanks and private corporations to challenge the scientific consensus on many contemporary issues.[2]

 

[jem]

you did not even attempt to read the papers. otherwise you would have known many of the papers were doing research on solar cycles or el nino - la nino cycles... etc.

so no... one would not have been enough as these were peer reviewed scientific papers.

1350 plus skeptical papers

If AGW were wrong, one would have been enough.

 

[jem]

that was la nina

you did not even attempt to read the papers. otherwise you would have known many of the papers were doing research on solar cycles or el nino - la nino cycles... etc.

so no... one would not have been enough as these were peer reviewed scientific papers.

 

[futurecurrents]

If you are going to cite some debunked studies... before you post it here... make sure it says man made co2 causes warming. That is very different than saying man is causing warming.


31000 scientists are skeptical.
Nasa rocket scientists are skeptical



Scientists questioning the accuracy of IPCC climate projections
These scientists have said that it is not possible to project global climate accurately enough to justify the ranges projected for temperature and sea-level rise over the next century. They may not conclude specifically that the current IPCC projections are either too high or too low, but that the projections are likely to be inaccurate due to inadequacies of current global climate modeling.

• David Bellamy, botanist.[19][20][21][22]
• Lennart Bengtsson, meteorologist, Reading University.[23][24]
• Piers Corbyn, owner of the business WeatherAction which makes weather forecasts.[25][26]
• Judith Curry, Professor and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.[27][28][29][30]
• Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society.[31][32]
• Ivar Giaever, Norwegian–American physicist and Nobel laureate in physics (1973).[33]
• Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University.[34][35]
• Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences.[36][37][38][39]
• Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement.[40][41][42][43][44][45][46]
• Ross McKitrick, Professor of Economics and CBE Chair in Sustainable Commerce, University of Guelph.[47][48]
• Patrick Moore, former president of Greenpeace Canada.[49][50][51]
• Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics Department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999–2003).[52][53]
• Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow Australian National University.[54][55]
• Roger A. Pielke, Jr., professor of environmental studies at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado at Boulder.[56][57]
• Tom Quirk, corporate director of biotech companies and former board member of the Institute of Public Affairs, an Australian conservative think-tank.[58]
• Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics at University of Ottawa, research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and soil science.[59][60][61][62]
• Harrison Schmitt, geologist, Apollo 17 Astronaut, former U.S. Senator.[63]
• Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry at Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm.[64][65]
• Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London.[66][67]
• Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute.[68][69]
• Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.[70][71]
• Fritz Vahrenholt, German politician and energy executive with a doctorate in chemistry.[72][73]

Scientists arguing that global warming is primarily caused by natural processes

Graph showing the ability with which a global climate model is able to reconstruct the historical temperature record, and the degree to which those temperature changes can be decomposed into various forcing factors. It shows the effects of five forcing factors: greenhouse gases, man-made sulfate emissions, solar variability, ozone changes, and volcanic emissions.[74]
These scientists have said that the observed warming is more likely to be attributable to natural causes than to human activities. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles.

• Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences[75][76]
• Sallie Baliunas, retired astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[77][78][79]
• Timothy Ball, historical climatologist, and retired professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg[80][81][82]
• Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[83][84]
• Chris de Freitas, associate professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland[85][86]
• David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester[87][88]
• Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University[89][90]
• William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy; emeritus professor, Princeton University[91][92]
• Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo[93][94]
• Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm.[95][96]
• William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology[97][98]
• David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware[99][100]
• Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Missouri[101][102]
• Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[103][104]
• Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.[105][106]
• Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of Adelaide.[107][108]
• Arthur B. Robinson, American politician, biochemist and former faculty member at the University of California, San Diego[109][110]
• Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie University and University of Colorado[111][112]
• Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University[113][114][115]
• Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo[116][117]
• Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem[118][119]
• Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia[120][121][122][123]
• Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[124][125]
• Roy Spencer, meteorologist; principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville[126][127]
• Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center[128][129]
• George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University[130][131]
• Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa[132][133]

Scientists arguing that the cause of global warming is unknown
These scientists have said that no principal cause can be ascribed to the observed rising temperatures, whether man-made or natural.

• Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and founding director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks.[134][135]
• Claude Allègre, French politician; geochemist, emeritus professor at Institute of Geophysics (Paris).[136][137]
• Robert Balling, a professor of geography at Arizona State University.[138][139]
• Pål Brekke, solar astrophycisist, senior advisor Norwegian Space Centre.[140][141]
• John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCC reports.[142][143][144]
• Petr Chylek, space and remote sensing sciences researcher, Los Alamos National Laboratory.[145][146]
• David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma.[147][148]
• Vincent R. Gray, New Zealand physical chemist with expertise in coal ashes[149][150]
• Keith E. Idso, botanist, former adjunct professor of biology at Maricopa County Community College District and the vice president of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change[151][152]
• Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists.[153][154]
• Kary Mullis, 1993 Nobel Laureate in Chemistry.[155]

Scientists arguing that global warming will have few negative consequences
These scientists have said that projected rising temperatures will be of little impact or a net positive for society or the environment.

• Indur M. Goklany, science and technology policy analyst for the United States Department of the Interior[156][157][158]
• Craig D. Idso, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change [159][160]
• Sherwood B. Idso, former research physicist, USDA Water Conservation Laboratory, and adjunct professor, Arizona State University[161][162]
• Patrick Michaels, senior fellow at the Cato Institute and retired research professor of environmental science at the University of Virginia[163][164]

Deceased scientists
This section includes deceased scientists who would otherwise be listed in the prior sections.

• August H. "Augie" Auer Jr. (1940–2007), retired New Zealand MetService meteorologist and past professor of atmospheric science at the University of Wyoming[165]
• Reid Bryson (1920–2008), emeritus professor of atmospheric and oceanic sciences, University of Wisconsin-Madison.[166]
• Robert M. Carter (1942–2016), former head of the School of Earth Sciences at James Cook University[167][168]
• William M. Gray (1929–2016), professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University[169][170]
• Robert Jastrow (1925–2008), American astronomer, physicist, cosmologist and leading NASA scientist who, together with Fred Seitz and William Nierenberg, established the George C. Marshall Institute[171][172][173]
• Harold ("Hal") Warren Lewis (1923–2011), emeritus professor of physics and former department chairman at the University of California, Santa Barbara.[174]
• Frederick Seitz (1911–2008), solid-state physicist, former president of the National Academy of Sciences and co-founder of the George C. Marshall Institute in 1984.[166][175]

And still, not a single quote from a single publishing climate expert saying man made global warming is not true. Or even anything close to that. Amazing.

For instance, a randomn pick from above

In his lectures, Legates has acknowledged that humans have a direct impact on the environment. However he has disputed large scale climatological studies where he claims that researchers fail to incorporate sufficient data involving increased solar activity, water vapor as a greenhouse gas, data contamination through expansion of the urban heat island effect surrounding data collection points, and many other key variables in addition to the human chemical emissions that are the sole focus of many climatological studies.

and

Legates is a signatory of the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation's "An Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming".[10]

The declaration states:

"We believe Earth and its ecosystems — created by God’s intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence — are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting, admirably suited for human flourishing, and displaying His glory. Earth's climate system is no exception."

nuff said



And what do you think about those merchants of doubt which piezoe quite obviously is.

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming&oq=Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming&aqs=chrome..69i57.954j0j4

How do you feel about those scientists that lied about the effects of tobacco? How many cases of lung cancer did their lying cause? I think that they are evil.

You seem to be avoiding this question.

 

[jem]

I have given you dozens of articles and papers showing its the sun or the tides doing some or most of the climate change.

what the hell are you lying about talking about? some red herring? or a strawman argument?

And still, not a single quote from a single publishing climate expert saying man made global warming is not true. Or even anything close to that. Amazing.

For instance, a randomn pick from above

In his lectures, Legates has acknowledged that humans have a direct impact on the environment. However he has disputed large scale climatological studies where he claims that researchers fail to incorporate sufficient data involving increased solar activity, water vapor as a greenhouse gas, data contamination through expansion of the urban heat island effect surrounding data collection points, and many other key variables in addition to the human chemical emissions that are the sole focus of many climatological studies.

and

Legates is a signatory of the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation's "An Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming".[10]

The declaration states:

"We believe Earth and its ecosystems — created by God’s intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence — are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting, admirably suited for human flourishing, and displaying His glory. Earth's climate system is no exception."

nuff said



And what do you think about those merchants of doubt which piezoe quite obviously is.

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming&oq=Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming&aqs=chrome..69i57.954j0j4

How do you feel about those scientists that lied about the effects of tobacco? How many cases of lung cancer did their lying cause? I think that they are evil.

You seem to be avoiding this question.

 

[Ricter]

I have given you dozens of articles and papers showing its the sun