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cooler because year over year cooler means drier and drought.. warmer means rain.
I have presented multiple articles on that fact to you.

Why do you think we have been hopping for warming el nino rains out here. And we got them to some degree and at least one of our reservoirs has had to release water because it was refilling very quickly. I presented and article about that too.

now I am not sure what happens in colorado. perahaps when storms miss California the the more northerly jet stream pounds colorado.

but... in general cooler means drier.





Cooler because it's winter, but still warmer than average. And the drought spanned all seasons.
 
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cooler because year over year cooler means drier and drought.. warmer means rain.
I have presented multiple articles on that fact to you.
Except it has not been cooler out west. It has been warmer and drier. You're merely trying to play reverse causation on the fact that colder cannot hold as much moisture as warmer air.
 
18 spectacularly wrong predictions made around the time of the first Earth Day in 1970, expect more this year
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In the May 2000 issue of Reason Magazine, award-winning science correspondent Ronald Bailey wrote an excellent article titled “ Earth Day, Then and Now ” to provide some historical perspective on the 30th anniversary of Earth Day. In that article, Bailey noted that around the time of the first Earth Day, and in the years following, there was a “torrent of apocalyptic predictions” and many of those predictions were featured in his Reason article. Well, it’s now the 46th anniversary of Earth Day, and a good time to ask the question again that Bailey asked 16 years ago: How accurate were the predictions made around the time of the first Earth Day in 1970? The answer: “The prophets of doom were not simply wrong, but spectacularly wrong,” according to Bailey. Here are 18 examples of the spectacularly wrong predictions made around 1970 when the “green holy day” (aka Earth Day) started:

1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in his 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out.

14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”

15. Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

16. Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look that, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

17. In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so, it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”

18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

MP: Let’s keep those spectacularly wrong predictions from the first Earth Day 1970 in mind when we’re bombarded tomorrow with media hype, and claims like this from the 2015 Earth Day website :

Scientists warn us that climate change could accelerate beyond our control, threatening our survival and everything we love. We call on you to keep global temperature rise under the unacceptably dangerous level of 2 degrees C, by phasing out carbon pollution to zero. To achieve this, you must urgently forge realistic global, national and local agreements, to rapidly shift our societies and economies to 100% clean energy by 2050. Do this fairly, with support to the most vulnerable among us. Our world is worth saving and now is our moment to act. But to change everything, we need everyone. Join us.

Finally, think about this question, posed by Ronald Bailey in 2000: What will Earth look like when Earth Day 60 rolls around in 2030? Bailey predicts a much cleaner, and much richer future world, with less hunger and malnutrition, less poverty, and longer life expectancy, and with lower mineral and metal prices. But he makes one final prediction about Earth Day 2030: “There will be a disproportionately influential group of doomsters predicting that the future–and the present–never looked so bleak.” In other words, the hype, hysteria and spectacularly wrong apocalyptic predictions will continue, promoted by the “environmental grievance hustlers.”



46 years ago, before computers, before global warming was known, and these were from individuals, not all of the world's science as it is now. And anyhow some of them are coming true.

No comparison
 
46 years ago, before computers, before global warming was known, and these were from individuals, not all of the world's science as it is now. And anyhow some of them are coming true.

No comparison

Computers only add to the pre-existing bias where the conclusion is determined before the science. Now with computers scientists funded with government grants can create models to support conclusions and then declare their predisposed results is "settled science".

In other news, a large tract builder (Pulte) recently cleared 3000 acres around the corner bulldozing every tree. They are hosting an "Earth Day" celebration tomorrow... so come down for their marketing event and buy a new home.
 
Billionaire John Paul DeJoria: This type of success is really just failure

"Paul Mitchell and Patron Tequila have two things in common: John Paul DeJoria and his commitment to sustainability.

"We feel that success unshared is failure and giving back is part of business," DeJoria told CNBC.

His goal is to make sure his businesses are "extremely environmental, animal and human friendly." As part of his endeavors, the Paul Mitchell Tea Tree Drive has planted more than 340,000 trees in order to offset the company's carbon footprint.

Patron Tequila is bottled in recycled glass. The spirits maker also filters the distillage created in the tequila making process so that it can be used as fertilizer..."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/22/bill...s-type-of-success-is-really-just-failure.html
 
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nope... I presented you with articles showing you drought in California historically showed up during cooler dryer times.

by the way I did not find any graphs outside of San Diego with California temps. But those San Diego graphs showing showed cooling for about the last 20 years or perhaps back the 1988 el nino. (when looking at the "unadjusted" data. The recently adjusted data shows no trends. )

Oddly... I can tell you for damn sure it was quite hot in 1988. I moved here in 1988 and it was pretty damn hot that year. It was over 100 degrees for the first 4 or 5 days I lived here .. it was hot all fall with some rain. It does not surprise me that we have been cooling a bit since.

Except it has not been cooler out west. It has been warmer and drier. You're merely trying to play reverse causation on the fact that colder cannot hold as much moisture as warmer air.
 
thanks for that post... that is the correct way to be a conservative in my opinion. in the conservation sense of the word. and old school conservative philosophy... not this neo con / leftist perversion.

letting private industry capitalize on conservation.


Billionaire John Paul DeJoria: This type of success is really just failure

"Paul Mitchell and Patron Tequila have two things in common: John Paul DeJoria and his commitment to sustainability.

"We feel that success unshared is failure and giving back is part of business," DeJoria told CNBC.

His goal is to make sure his businesses are "extremely environmental, animal and human friendly." As part of his endeavors, the Paul Mitchell Tea Tree Drive has planted more than 340,000 trees in order to offset the company's carbon footprint.

Patron Tequila is bottled in recycled glass. The spirits maker also filters the distillage created in the tequila making process so that it can be used as fertilizer..."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/22/bill...s-type-of-success-is-really-just-failure.html
 
Why Even President Trump Won’t Kill The Climate Deal
It would just be too embarrassing.
04/23/2016 08:03 am E

"When the leading Republican presidential candidate calls climate change a hoax dreamed up by the Chinese government, environmentalists have a reason to be concerned.

"But even if the American people put a climate change denier like Donald Trump in the White House, the U.S. remains unlikely to renege on its carbon cutting commitments under the Paris climate agreement, experts say.

"Pulling out of the 196-nation agreement would risk ruining America’s credibility within the international community, according to Elliot Diringer, executive vice president of the nonprofit and nonpartisan Center for Climate and Energy Solutions.

"Ditching the Paris accord “would almost certainly trigger a major diplomatic backlash,” Diringer told reporters in a conference call on Thursday. “To renounce it would undermine U.S. credibility and influence abroad.”

"Globally, Obama’s commitment to the Paris agreement is seen as a sign of U.S. leadership on climate change, and balking on that commitment would “turn the U.S. from a leader into a defector,” Diringer added.

"There’s no sign at all of a concerted effort on the Hill to challenge the agreement. Elliot Diringer, Center for Climate and Energy Solutions
The U.S. and nearly 170 other countries signed the Paris climate agreement, which aims to limit global warming to “well below” 2 degrees Celsius, in a ceremony at the United Nations headquarters in New York on Friday.

"Although the U.S. has officially signed on to the accord, the next president could still in theory refuse to uphold America’s commitment to cutting carbon emissions. Under the Paris accord, carbon reductions are voluntary and established by each country. In addition, the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change lacks a way to enforce each country’s pledge.

“In the end, presidents, especially if they have a Congress that’s willing to go along, can totally shape U.S. climate policy and can reshape it,” David Goldston, director of government affairs at the Natural Resources Defense Council Action Fund, told Public Radio International in March.

"There’s a history of newly elected presidents abandoning international treaties their predecessors endorsed. In 2001, former President George Bush famously rejected the Kyoto Protocol on global warming, which the U.S. had signed on to in 1998.

"The major difference between the Kyoto protocol and the Paris agreement? Kyoto required only developed nations to slash greenhouse gas emissions, exempting 100 countries, including China and India, from mandatory reductions. In the Paris agreement, all countries are on the hook to cut emissions.

"Diringer thinks it’s unlikely that the next president would totally abandon the Paris agreement. And he isn’t alone in this view. Jeffrey Sachs, director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University and a senior adviser to the U.N., made much the same argument this week.

"To back out of the agreement, “you [would] have to blow off the whole rest of the world,” Sachs told CNN on Friday. “And I don’t think [the U.S. would] find another partner to do that. You’d have to just be the renegade state.”

"Moreover, Americans want the government to get serious about climate change. Over 90 percent of Americans believe in global warming and two-thirds support the Paris deal, whereas as late as 2005, fewer than half of Americans said they supported the Kyoto protocol. Public support for the agreement might already be pushing the Republican-controlled Congress to accept the climate deal, or at least not publicly oppose it.

“We’re seeing a tacit acceptance [of the Paris agreement] in Congress,” Diringer said. “There’s no sign at all of a concerted effort on the Hill to challenge the agreement.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-president-climate-deal_us_571a7fc4e4b0d912d5fe9f60
 
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