Did you ever stop to consider that the distance from the sun matters. That the innate density of the atmosphere matters.
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Did you ever stop to consider that the distance from the sun matters. That the innate density of the atmosphere matters.
Then why are the clouds on Venus a temperate 55 degrees Celcius?
Because that's the benefit of being much closer to the Sun than the Earth.
The only way that deniers can be correct is if CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. It's really that simple.
But it is. No question.
So all the stupid shit being said by them - and that perplexingly includes piezoe - is just that......stupid shit.
But it is. No question.
So all the stupid shit being said by them - and that perplexingly includes piezoe - is just that......stupid shit.
we know that fraudcurrents is a thoughtless troll who will not consider contray science or logic on this subject... but you need to be more scientific... nitro...
there are plenty of variables besides co2 to be considered -
the density of the gases and convection
proximity to sun
other greenhouse gases like water vapor
come on man... be scientific and use the properly level of equivocation...
science does not know that co2 is responsible for the greenhouse effect on venus... its just speculation... for instance wikipedia has this... notice the due equivocation in the first sentence.... "may"...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_greenhouse_effect
A runaway greenhouse effect involving carbon dioxide and water vapor may have occurred on Venus.[9] In this scenario, early Venus may have had a global ocean. As the brightness of the early Sun increased, the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere increased, increasing the temperature and consequently increasing the evaporation of the ocean, leading eventually to the situation in which the oceans boiled, and all of the water vapor entered the atmosphere. On Venus today there is little water vapor in the atmosphere. If water vapor did contribute to the warmth of Venus at one time, this water is thought to have escaped to space. Some evidence for this scenario comes from the extremely high Deuterium to Hydrogen ratio in Venus' atmosphere, roughly ~150x that of Earth, since light hydrogen would escape from the atmosphere more readily than its heavier isotope, Deuterium.[10][11]Venus is sufficiently strongly heated by the Sun that water vapor can rise much higher in the atmosphere and be split into hydrogen and oxygen by ultraviolet light. The hydrogen can then escape from the atmosphere and the oxygen recombines. Carbon dioxide, the dominant greenhouse gas in the current Venusian atmosphere, owes its larger concentration to the weakness of carbon recycling as compared to Earth, where the carbon dioxide emitted from volcanoes is efficiently subducted into the Earth by plate tectonics on geologic time scales.[12]
there are plenty of variables besides co2 to be considered -
the density of the gases and convection
proximity to sun
other greenhouse gases like water vapor
come on man... be scientific and use the properly level of equivocation...
science does not know that co2 is responsible for the greenhouse effect on venus... its just speculation... for instance wikipedia has this... notice the due equivocation in the first sentence.... "may"...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_greenhouse_effect
A runaway greenhouse effect involving carbon dioxide and water vapor may have occurred on Venus.[9] In this scenario, early Venus may have had a global ocean. As the brightness of the early Sun increased, the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere increased, increasing the temperature and consequently increasing the evaporation of the ocean, leading eventually to the situation in which the oceans boiled, and all of the water vapor entered the atmosphere. On Venus today there is little water vapor in the atmosphere. If water vapor did contribute to the warmth of Venus at one time, this water is thought to have escaped to space. Some evidence for this scenario comes from the extremely high Deuterium to Hydrogen ratio in Venus' atmosphere, roughly ~150x that of Earth, since light hydrogen would escape from the atmosphere more readily than its heavier isotope, Deuterium.[10][11]Venus is sufficiently strongly heated by the Sun that water vapor can rise much higher in the atmosphere and be split into hydrogen and oxygen by ultraviolet light. The hydrogen can then escape from the atmosphere and the oxygen recombines. Carbon dioxide, the dominant greenhouse gas in the current Venusian atmosphere, owes its larger concentration to the weakness of carbon recycling as compared to Earth, where the carbon dioxide emitted from volcanoes is efficiently subducted into the Earth by plate tectonics on geologic time scales.[12]
So did jem prove that CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas or that we NOT raised it's level by 40%?
Didn't think so.
Didn't think so.
Why would I try to do that. that is not relevant to what I have been saying.
NASA has stated co2 contributes to cooling as well.... and NASA has produced satellite experiments which prove it. I have presented the links to you many times.
When you provide peer reviewed science showing man made co2 causes warming you will cease being an annoying co2 drone.
When you can even find a list of scientists who state man made co2 causes warming... you will be a reasonable human being.
When you stop selling a a greenhouse gas 2000 times more powerful than co2 you will cease being a scary individual rights hating typical hypocritical leftist.
NASA has stated co2 contributes to cooling as well.... and NASA has produced satellite experiments which prove it. I have presented the links to you many times.
When you provide peer reviewed science showing man made co2 causes warming you will cease being an annoying co2 drone.
When you can even find a list of scientists who state man made co2 causes warming... you will be a reasonable human being.
When you stop selling a a greenhouse gas 2000 times more powerful than co2 you will cease being a scary individual rights hating typical hypocritical leftist.
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http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/22mar_saber/
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Mlynczak is the associate principal investigator for the SABER instrument onboard NASA’s TIMED satellite. SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earth’s upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a key role in the energy balance of air hundreds of km above our planet’s surface.
“Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.”
That’s what happened on March 8th when a coronal mass ejection (CME) propelled in our direction by an X5-class solar flare hit Earth’s magnetic field. (On the “Richter Scale of Solar Flares,” X-class flares are the most powerful kind.) Energetic particles rained down on the upper atmosphere, depositing their energy where they hit. The action produced spectacular auroras around the poles and significant1 upper atmospheric heating all around the globe.
“The thermosphere lit up like a Christmas tree,” says Russell. “It began to glow intensely at infrared wavelengths as the thermostat effect kicked in.”
For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.
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more at link above
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Mlynczak is the associate principal investigator for the SABER instrument onboard NASA’s TIMED satellite. SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earth’s upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a key role in the energy balance of air hundreds of km above our planet’s surface.
“Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.”
That’s what happened on March 8th when a coronal mass ejection (CME) propelled in our direction by an X5-class solar flare hit Earth’s magnetic field. (On the “Richter Scale of Solar Flares,” X-class flares are the most powerful kind.) Energetic particles rained down on the upper atmosphere, depositing their energy where they hit. The action produced spectacular auroras around the poles and significant1 upper atmospheric heating all around the globe.
“The thermosphere lit up like a Christmas tree,” says Russell. “It began to glow intensely at infrared wavelengths as the thermostat effect kicked in.”
For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.
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more at link above