Even the Pope sides with Futurecurrents

wow... is that film propanda? the authors of the Caillon paper seem honest, the narrator is a propagandist.

lets review.. most of the video confirms that co2 trials warming and cooling. then it goes to the Caillon paper. I bring your attention to 9 minutes 22 seconds.

The Callion paper at 9:22 ish... confirms CO2 causing warming is speculation when it properly uses the word "MAY". Please look at your video Nitro. The scientists use the way may... saying co2 "may" amplify orbital forcings. it does not say does.

That is the state of science... We don't know that CO2 causes warming on earth but it "may". (note its even less likely man made co2 warms the earth) .

In Short... its CO2 in the Gaps.


But note, the study I presented from Humlum, a few pages ago, even destroys the CO2 in the Gaps speculation to a large degree.


The Humlum study above shows that the data records indicates CO2 matches but trails ocean warming on the way up by 1 year... and then also trails it by one year on the way down....

The maximum positive correlation between CO2 and temperature is found for CO2 lagging 11–12 months in relation to global sea surface temperature, 9.5-10 months to global surface air temperature, and about 9 months to global lower troposphere temperature. The correlation between changes in ocean temperatures and atmospheric CO2 is high, but do not explain all observed changes.
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Doesn't matter.



Not a single expert climatologist denies AGW.
 
This forum is supposed to be about politics and religion. You keep wanting to talk about science. Okay.

The primary modern scientific opposition to the concept that the majority of global warming is caused by CO2 is probably the argument that global warming is primarily caused by sun activity. The graph you included shows total sun output and shows that it's supposed to be flat. But the subject is widely debated. If you go to wikipedia and look up "sun variation" you will find the following graph:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation

The above shows that the region labeled "modern maximum" in solar activity, as measured by the amount of C14 produced (inverse scale) follows nicely the modern increase in temperatures. But for some reason, your bloomberg link didn't include this graph!

Here are some articles for interested readers (not you, LOL) to read. I'll start with one for you to reject because it's not peer reviewed. This will save you the bother of reading any of the others, LOL:

Climate Change: The Sun's Role
Gerald E. Marsh (2007)
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These data strongly imply that a relation between cosmic ray intensity and cloud cover may explain how relatively small changes in solar activity can produce much larger changes in the earth's climate. While the correlation is robust, there is still no generally accepted mechanism, although a number have been proposed. This is not surprising since the microphysical processes in clouds are quite complex and this is an ongoing area of research.
http://arxiv.org/abs/0706.3621


http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1407/1407.1805.pdf

An evidence for solar activity influence on the meteorological processes in the south polar region of Mars during the great opposition in AD 1924.
Boris Komitov, Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, Insitute of Astronomy (2009)
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0912/0912.2112.pdf

Study of the influence of solar variability on a regional (Indian) climate: 1901-2007
Advances in Space Research, 2014
O.P.M. Aslam, Badruddin
Comparison of the relationships between the Indian temperature anomalies and solar activity (SSN) provides evidence faouring a mechanism that depends not only on the level of sunspot activity but also on solar polarity.
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1407/1407.1805.pdf

A Doubling of the Sun's Coronal Magnetic Field during the Last 100 Years
M. Lockwood, R. Stamper, and M.N. Wild
NATURE Vol. 399, 3 June 1999. Pages 437-439

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http://www.ukssdc.ac.uk/wdcc1/papers/nature.html


Long Term Variability of the Sun and Climate Change
Cho, Il-Hyun, Chang, Heon-Young
Journal of Astronomy and Space Sciences, Vol 25, Issue 4, (2008) pp 395-404
... We determine solar induced components from the time series of temperature anomalies and obtain 39% solar contribution on the recent global warming. ...
http://www.koreascience.or.kr/article/ArticleFullRecord.jsp?cn=OJOOBS_2008_v25n4_395



You can find more articles by googling solar+variation+climate. For articles about the sun's huge changes in UV output and its effect on climate, try solar+spectrum+climate.



Didn't read it pie.

Doesn't matter.



Not a single expert climatologist denies AGW.

Unless you are a publishing climatologist your opinion is worth the pile my dog made.

Actually the pile my dog made is worth more since it will at least fertilize the lawn
 
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Pink salmon in the Pacific Ocean face a double threat of acidification linked to greenhouse gas emissions since it slows their early growth in rivers and disrupts the chemistry of seawater, a study showed on Monday...

...Carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas caused by burning fossil fuels, reacts with water to produce a weak acid. That especially threatens creatures ranging from oysters to lobsters which find it harder to build protective shells.

An international study in 2013 said acidification of the oceans was happening at the fastest pace for 55 million years, because of human greenhouse gas emissions...


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/29/climatechange-salmon-idUSL5N0ZF2EY20150629
 
Pink salmon in the Pacific Ocean face a double threat of acidification linked to greenhouse gas emissions since it slows their early growth in rivers and disrupts the chemistry of seawater, a study showed on Monday...

...Carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas caused by burning fossil fuels, reacts with water to produce a weak acid. That especially threatens creatures ranging from oysters to lobsters which find it harder to build protective shells.

An international study in 2013 said acidification of the oceans was happening at the fastest pace for 55 million years, because of human greenhouse gas emissions...


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/29/climatechange-salmon-idUSL5N0ZF2EY20150629


99% of the biosphere is in the oceans. So if we screw them up.....
 
the oceans and our fisheries do need protecting.
instead of the billions being spent on the agw nutter liars... lets spend it on the oceans.

I would also note the oceans might be getting more neutral... they are still on the base side of 7 not the acid side.
 
the oceans and our fisheries do need protecting.
instead of the billions being spent on the agw nutter liars... lets spend it on the oceans.

I would also note the oceans might be getting more neutral... they are still on the base side of 7 not the acid side.


Liars?


Hey jerm, did you ever find a publishing climatologist that denies man made global warming? No? Didn't think so.

You do know that ignoring and downplaying one of the biggest threats to mankind is immoral right? You do consider yourself a Christian right?
 
Pink salmon in the Pacific Ocean face a double threat of acidification linked to greenhouse gas emissions since it slows their early growth in rivers and disrupts the chemistry of seawater, a study showed on Monday.

LOL!!! This story is pretty good evidence that the environmental whack jobs aren't running some secretly organized campaign to destroy industry. Instead, they're individual whack jobs. No organization would put out a report like the above while simultaneously reports like this one are out:

Too Many Salmon in the Sea, Pacific Study Hints
James Own, National Geographic, March 31, 2014
Burgeoning numbers of pink salmon may threaten the food supply of young seabirds
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/03/140331-salmon-seabirds-pacific-fish-animals-science/

I think every scientist wants to get a good grip on a fat hind tit from the federal government. A good way is to claim that some horrible thing is going to happen to the ecology. A huge problem for environmentalists is that global warming has absorbed way too much of their efforts. But it's also absorbed too much of the public's ability to care.

Other researchers have a better story. Humans are going to go extinct due to global warming, LOL. Why should we give a damn about pink salmon? The world harvests 400,000 tonnes of pink salmon per year this is tiny compared to the 100,000,000 tonnes of pork. If it went completely extinct, pink salmon just doesn't matter. I can't remember the last time I had any. And if it were going extinct, we wouldn't be reading about how there's way too much of it.
 
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