Then I should have been more careful in detail. The "you" in that regard, was reference to those theists , who like evangelicals, do demand a right to an already institutionalized religion remaining and further being increased.Quote from spect8or:
I've never once claimed nor even intimated that I have such a right.
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Go and reread your own posts stu. It is my (our) beliefs you begrudge.
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Then I should have been more careful in detail. The "you" in that regard, was reference to those theists , who like evangelicals, do demand a right to an already institutionalized religion remaining and further being increased.
However, it is somewhat excusable as demonstrated here where the first person you and "our" is made misleading...
Our beliefs? Whose do you mean. Those evangelicals who use their beliefs to demand rights? Theists in general? or Muslims?
If I am guilty of inferring you profess a right which you do not, then you are equally if not more so, for categorically and wrongly stating what it is beliefs I begrudge , even though I spelt out it is not so. Never anywhere have I claimed nor intimated that I begrudge such things.
Now why don't you go reread your (our) posts.
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I'd confidently guess they're gaining more in recruits than what they're losing to secularism.
What about liberals, though? Those suckers are breeding themselves out of existence. (Births below replacement rate.) Good. Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people.
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i think its simpler than this. religion is driving youth away from the churches.
i go to a large baptist type church to keep my wife happy. at my church you are not a "real" christian unless you believe these things:
god made the earth 6000 years ago just as you see it today
god made man from dust
god made woman from a mans rib
the bible is the inerrant word of god and every word of it is accurate right down to the punctuation.
satan roams the earth trying to trick people
evolution is a giant conspiricy by scientists to deny gods word.
jesus will return any day now.
once there was a great worldwide flood where god killed every living thing.
noah collected 2 of every animal and put them in a giant boat to ride out the flood.
unless you believe all these things god will burn you forever in a giant pit of fire somewhere in the center of the earth.
god sent himself to earth to kill himself to save us from gods wrath.
ect. ect.
really i ask you. how can you sell this nonsense to educated youth today and expect them to take what you say seriously?
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vhehn, just out of curiosity-what would happen , if you stopped going to this church?
If you said, "well, its just not for me", what would happen?