Quote from FX_Cowboy:
I agree with you that the Euro has risen in defiance of what one might have expected from recent economic reports and seemingly on the basis of some intangible fears and a lot of loose talk. First, I would suggest that talk and fear cannot hold up the Euro forever.
As for what is going to change, maybe nothing -- and maybe the Euro will continue to rise for a while. However there are a few scenarios that could play out in the dollar's favor:
-- There's already talk that the media and the markets misconstrued the intent of the G7, which is now purported to have intended for the yuan to appreciate NOT for the dollar to depreciate.
-- Oil prices have been moving lower all week, and could continue to do so, especially if:
-- The question of Iran's uranium enrichment can be settled without raising the spectre of oil supply disruptions from that country.
-- The FOMC raises to 5.0%; the ECB does nothing.
-- (My pick) For various and sundry reasons, different market players believe that the Euro has overshot, and that the market is going to correct, so they switch to a short bias, leading to a greater supply of Euros than dollars in the market.
-- All of the above.
Quote from Ivanovich:
That's what we're saying, chief. Long term fundies don't support the Euro.
Quote from Ivanovich:
I'm sorry, but I don't agree. You can trade technical intraday movements - resistance and supports, fibos, etc. But at the end of the week when you see a 500 pip rise, that's not technical. That's a change in the fundamental perception on where things are going in the long term. And that's what I'm looking at here.
Sure, I've referred to strong data releases, etc. Those are all short term. But together, over a period of time, they generate a picture of the future. And that, as far as the Euro goes, is being ignored here. And it's not technical movement, it's emotional. Technicals don't hold market sentiment. They are calculations and math. Statistics.
Quote from Buy1Sell2:
These aren't long term fundamentals you are looking at --Most of them are day to day and week to week. Just trade technicals --forget about news.When the market is ready to turn, technicals will give you the info you need. Always trade technicals --they hold the fundamentals within them and the human sentiment factor as well.
Quote from FX_Cowboy:
No argument there. What would motivate a trade is a completely different discussion. I'm just speculating what short-term events might eventually turn the herd around. I don't plan to stand in front of the stampede and try present my reasons why I think they may be headed in the wrong direction.
Quote from FX_Cowboy:
No argument there. What would motivate a trade is a completely different discussion. I'm just speculating what short-term events might eventually turn the herd around. I don't plan to stand in front of the stampede and try present my reasons why I think they may be headed in the wrong direction.
Yes, you've made that very clear. I was referring to my own approach here, which is the same as yours.I present my reasons I think they are headed in the wrong direction, but I certainly do not take a stand in front of the stampede - which is what I've been saying this whole time.
I certainly hope that you do NOT refrain from posting, as I consider your posts to be among the best on the thread.I was under the impression this was a discussion. If I am wrong, I will refrain from future like postings.
Just so we're not talking past each other, I believe you are saying that the market is reacting emotionally and ignoring the fundamentals. I absolutely agree. I was agreeing with Buy1Sell2 that it made sense (for me) to wait until the technicals tell me when to go short before I enter a short trade.As for the discussion on technicals, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, because I cannot disagree any stronger.