ETF's have become scumbag centers.

Quote from Nofear777:

8/21/2008

Cl #F a high of around 121, closed around 121.

8/21/2008

USO a high of around 98, closed around 98.

Today.

CL #f

A high of around 130

Uso

A high of 89...

So tell me what changed so drasticaly within less than a month that USO is off by 12% of where it was relatively a month ago...

Something seems broken.

Dude, you need to read KGB's post again. The guy was nice enough to lay it out for you without flaming your ass and you seem to be ignoring. And as Szeven said, if you have no clue what the ETF is all about you will have your lunch eaten by those who do , have your ass summarily handed to you , and you will be sent on your way.

Today was exceptional, not a standard expiration on the crude. With the events of the last week, the dollar getting smashed, and some idiots being way too short going into to expiration they got the living shit squeezed out of them and taught a lesson. That violent price movement happened on fairly low volume and was basically confined to the Oct contract.

As was pointed out , the USO holds a variety of futs contracts and they are likely not stupid enough to be holding a bunch of Oct contracts about expire, for the very reason you witnessed today. The USO is a good proxy for crude, particularily from early to mid, late month, but when contracts are rolling it can de-couple somewhat. It is an ETF that is proxy, not the commodity it self.
 
Quote from Trader KGB:

Nofear777,

October's CL contract expired today, its close price is meaningless. It was run up $25 in completely illiquid conditions as the last remaining shorts scrambled to get out before being forced with physical delivery.

Ignore the close & daily change of Oct. Only look at Nov and further out. See my last post about weighted average of all CL contracts. Most of all READ.


Ahhhh.. wow... thanks m8.. Noob here.
 
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