ET gone to the dogs

[Aero73kgp]

$250K is a LITTLE bit more justification for a Four-hour daily commute but $100K is NOT worth it. They should either tele-commute or change jobs or try to live closer to the jobs or at least reduce the frequency of commuting.

Because assuming that your friends work standard 8-hour, 5 days a week job, so $250K/52/5/8 = $120.19 per hour, this is their hourly rate now for the 4-hour commute, they are NOT really spending it on their life, their leisure, or their family or their friends. Since they incurred that commute for the SOLE purpose of going to work otherwise they would've just vegged out in front of the TV with a Bud in their hands, so these 4-hour commute should really be allocated to their work, so technically with the commute hours added, your friends are NOT really working an 8-hour job but a 12-hour job!! So their hourly rate is really $250K/52/5/12 = $80.12 per hour!! With $80.12 per hour, their annual salary based on an equivalent of 8-hour, 5-day a week job, is really $80.12 X 8 X 5 X 52 = $166,649.60! Your friends have just effectively taken a (166,649.60 - 250,000) / 250,000 = 33% pay cut just by driving FOUR hours each day!!! Your friends who are earning $100K is really earning $66,666, literally turned their otherwise a six-figure job into a 5-figure one, a entry-level manager's salary, And this is not mentioning all the stress from the commuting, higher incidence for accidents, lowered productivity which would've added more cost to the bill. At the end of the day, the real take-home pay is even less.

People really don't realize the detriment of long-distance commuting and how much it costs to the workers, the companies (the workers are not really available to do work during the commute so it's wasted time for the companies too), the taxpayers who have to pay so much for road maintenance and the police and the environment for causing so much pollution, noise, endangerment to wildlife. Excessive long-term commuting is a lose, lose, lose, lose situation for everybody! It was such a bad idea to build so many roads. They should've invested in internet right away in the 50's instead of appeasing to the construction and automobile industries!!

Outstanding points, thanks. These are all JPL NASA engineers. They consider TRADING an illegal activity that could carry a jail sentence

 

[JSOP]

Outstanding points, thanks. These are all JPL NASA engineers. They consider TRADING an illegal activity that could carry a jail sentence

I applaud their dedication and passion for their career; not everybody has to like trading but they REALLY should consider living closer to their work or tele-commuting. They are NOT doing any favours to themselves or to NASA by doing such excessive daily commutes.

 

[Aero73kgp]

I applaud their dedication and passion for their career; not everybody has to like trading but they REALLY should consider living closer to their work or tele-commuting. They are NOT doing any favours to themselves or to NASA by doing such excessive daily commutes.

The wives don't want to move so the husbands are stuck.

The one of several times they loved the idea of trading was when I had to buy 14 roundtrip tickets and pay for hotels for a 1-week caribbean trip as they were all strapped even with the big salaries.

 

[themickey]

Ditto here, death was lurking daily, long learning curve, long hours, total lost before dawn, 920k

Shhheeeeessshhhhhh

 

[maximumpossiblesuffering]

My reply is inline below:

That's how frustrating it is, JSOP. 4 friends with "good" jobs do exactly that commute. At least these cats make 250k/yr. But others I know are well under 100k. Talk to them about trading and even show the numbers? In one ear out the other.

Oh, it is so great you feel their pain. If only there were a way for them to change their lives...

Yes, humbletrader, I am a lonely son of a gun. The more money one got the more miserable one can be, the further away from HOME one wanders like a zombie lost in material stuff. Those who don't got the money think that those that do are in Paradise. They be dead wrong.
I wish "misery" would find me in the way you describe!

I'm not talking about day to day superficial happiness that comes from outdoors, boats, cars, parties, golf, bla bla. No chief, its something deeper, much deeper. 2 days after getting a huge trade profit, the joy wears off and I got nothing.
You have me climaxing! Boats! Oh! Cars! Oh! Oh! Golf! Where did my cigarettes go?

But, sitting in a restaurant, then thru' the window seeing 4 obviously not well off young uns looking longingly at the food, I go out and bring 'em in and pay for the full stomach. That high lasts for weeks. That's when I started really living - giving it away as fast as it comes in and it never stops coming in.
You are a saint for your such wonderful thoughts. Nothing says more that you've made it than being able to help others.

Friends dying in crappy jobs not able to make ends meet but cannot even consider going into trading despite the example I've set - kills me. Have to bail them out on house payments and whatnot, but do it gladly but they could be in the driver seat themselves.

Yes, one must never forget their friends...

No humbletrader, I understand you perfectly in that after helping someone you get a kick in the ass and that kills it for you.
I have never heard of a more selfless individual...

Here's what I am saying ........... give it for free to a total stranger(s) you come across singly or in a group or village, who says or does something that catches your attention - give it and then walk away expecting nothing in return, not even perhaps a thank you. Just give and walk away and forget about it. You'll drown in well being, HT.

You would do this for li'l ole me, a simple fast food worker just trying to make ends meet? It sounds too good to be true, but here is my address:

MaximumPossibleSuffering
Blue Sky Trailer Park
123 Easy Way
Podunk, WA 98007

Outstanding points, thanks. These are all JPL NASA engineers. They consider TRADING an illegal activity that could carry a jail sentence

Oh wow, such important people and they can't even benefit. So sad...

The wives don't want to move so the husbands are stuck.
My wife would be so proud of me if I signed up for this, I'm sure I would be rewarded MULTIPLE times.

The one of several times they loved the idea of trading was when I had to buy 14 roundtrip tickets and pay for hotels for a 1-week caribbean trip as they were all strapped even with the big salaries.

And vacations too? What a lifestyle! No more black-eyed peas for me!

aero73kgp, you don't even know the language of professional level trading. You do however, know the language of con artists. The only reason why I'm not being harsher on you is because we are not in the politics forum.

 

[JSOP]

The wives don't want to move so the husbands are stuck.

The one of several times they loved the idea of trading was when I had to buy 14 roundtrip tickets and pay for hotels for a 1-week caribbean trip as they were all strapped even with the big salaries.

So telecommute! They work for NASA; they are supposed to be able to communicate with astronauts in space and they can't set up networks for them to communicate to work from their homes?

 

[themickey]

You would do this for li'l ole me, a simple fast food worker just trying to make ends meet? It sounds too good to be true, but here is my address:

MaximumPossibleSuffering
Blue Sky Trailer Park
123 Easy Way
Podunk, WA 98007

LMAO

 

[Aero73kgp]

My reply is inline below:


Oh, it is so great you feel their pain. If only there were a way for them to change their lives...


Yes, one must never forget their friends...


You would do this for li'l ole me, a simple fast food worker just trying to make ends meet? It sounds too good to be true, but here is my address:

MaximumPossibleSuffering
Blue Sky Trailer Park
123 Easy Way
Podunk, WA 98007


Oh wow, such important people and they can't even benefit. So sad...


And vacations too? What a lifestyle! No more black-eyed peas for me!

aero73kgp, you don't even know the language of professional level trading. You do however, know the language of con artists. The only reason why I'm not being harsher on you is because we are not in the politics forum.

Now that you've walked in MY door, post 3 real-time trades

LOL, only chicks I've told to scram talk this way. The last one said, "its not working out" - I said, OK, how soon can you leave? Then she just wouldn't leave. $100 says you'll come after me for months.

 

[Aero73kgp]

So telecommute! They work for NASA; they are supposed to be able to communicate with astronauts in space and they can't set up networks for them to communicate to work from their homes?

That's right. Most of these cats couldn't take out a burger out of a takeout stand in real life. Salaried and slave mode to the nth.

 

[Aero73kgp]

The only reason why I'm not being harsher on you is because we are not in the politics forum.

You have my permission to be as harsh as you want. I'll sign it too. I'm already being harsh with you in asking you for 3 real-time trades posted at ET. This is severe punishment for a participant at ANY trading site. Do it NOW!