ES vs NQ

People just want to argue. Ytd returns on each are not insignificant nor an exaggeration. Trade how you want. Noone bashing other instruments.
 
Typically in trending conditions the NQ makes about 2 times the price moves of the ES & YM, over the long term. The NQ is a breakout market, and I like that.

Blue=QQQ, White = SPY, Gold = DIA

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How about a discussion on Trading this as a pair in appropriate ratio? ( as a Exchange recognized spread / CME margin relief) anybody doing that? at retail level ( as a Exchange recognized spread / CME margin relief)
 

Thanks and for the line chart comparisons. I'm surprise RTY (formerly TF) was able to keep up with the other Emini futures when it was being bounced around from one exchange to the other exchange.

Also, I wonder what happen in 2014 (near mid year) for NQ to break away (upwards) from the pack ?

wrbtrader
 
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wrbtrader said:
Thanks and for the line chart comparisons. I'm surprise RTY (formerly TF) was able to keep up with the other Emini futures when it was being bounced around from one exchange to the other exchange.

Also, I wonder what happen in 2014 (near mid year) for NQ to break away (upwards) from the pack ?

wrbtrader
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Well, Facebook started taking off, and maybe the others also? nVidia only started to go nuts in the tail end of 2016, but still, I reckon' it was mostly the FAANG basket, along with the ancillary tech stocks.
 
traderjo said:
How about a discussion on Trading this as a pair in appropriate ratio? ( as a Exchange recognized spread / CME margin relief) anybody doing that? at retail level ( as a Exchange recognized spread / CME margin relief)
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You can trade anything as a pair. It might habe to be traded each leg, but no one is stopping you. I think it’s a terrible idea (i.e. either one on their own is out performing, by far, the pair you are looking for), but go for it.
 
traderjo said:
How about a discussion on Trading this as a pair in appropriate ratio? ( as a Exchange recognized spread / CME margin relief) anybody doing that? at retail level ( as a Exchange recognized spread / CME margin relief)
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There are old threads in the past that was specific to such type of discussions about pair trading the Emini futures. Several active members didn't like it and turned it into bitch fest...thread eventually just died because people got tired of the debates.

If that's what you're interested in...you can start a new thread about the topic. Share your thoughts and experience with pair trading the Emini futures.

wrbtrader
 
If trading futures outright, ES NQ YM RTY all provide very good liquidity.

If trading options, only ES has "enough liquidity". You would be better off trading QQQ DIA IWM options.
 
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