ES Journal Archive (2011)

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if it was so damn easy to short a trend day down, here we have a mirror pattern, but not only a fruggin mirror but a breakout on top of the mirror.

so if it is so damn easy to short, then what is sacrilegious about long side.

over the years, participated in chat rooms, like-minded people who made $ always shorting. i question longevity of this. there is another side called supports and it ain't there just to close your short position.

Interesting to look at ET posters (not this thread, other journals) who joined during 2008 haircut on S&P500 (assuming and it seems from their posts just started out) if they post p&L and kept a journal thread of transactions for that day you would be Challenged to find a long position. I ain't naming names, easy to see. Popular threads. Then a couple years later they are not around or not posting those entries or posting mixed losses. And you are wondering, great trader but what is going on. Then you check out the p&l threads, mostly props but yeah you can find others there, and the results are from both sides of market. i.e. is Lescor a bull or a bear?

I speak from some experience here having gone through a similar mentality. I started roughly 2002, 2001, I remember when the S&P500 hit 800, Bush, War, etc. The air was thick. We doubled that number in 5 years. So I was 'born' shorting my a** off on NASDAQ and it worked and well then it didn't work in 2003 : ) so had to adjust.


and then you find ammo who invalidates everything I've just said, rare bird.

And Macho, posted about adding to losers, I agree with you if I understand what you were saying, agree to a point. I add in ONE zone, leg in. If it doesn't work I have an uncle point. Because it's clearly going to the next zone past my uncle point and I can re-enter there. I don't add losers from zone to zone. Zone works or not. Not then out. That's why I stopped out and bought 1202.5.
 
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There is not any right or wrong with averaging either way. To me, even though I have done it a couple of times, I tempted to do it earlier today and I would 've finished up losing more. But I could have 'justified' the extra contract,because my stop was 'set'.

My father would average a trade out,but that was from a current 'winning trade',which he would reverse. The total risk was the whole profit and a little bit more. But overall,statistically, he was still profitable from averaging out.

It takes a steel rod attitude realizing and accepting diminishing returns.

I haven't analyzed Volente's trades, but do know he has made some really good profits of late and the losers don't seem to be too nasty,just seems that they have come in bunches at times.And it gets back to size of exposure, which we don't see.

If there was a fault, and I am not the one to be critical, is that when he has averaged a trade I always feel that he should pick up some profits on the way to reduce his exposure, because anything can happen ,any time.

The only thing that blows me away is when I see comments about the potential market could go to 1230-1250 and then the next thing we see is the trades are posted going the other way!!
In other words,"what I think is not what I do". I don't understand that.
vol has spent a lot of time on the r10.20.30 scenarios and has a lot of faith in them,they have made him a lot of great points,sometimes,that's not the case,like everything else,it doesn't always work
 
satch,i short because the pullbacks are quicker,,market the majority of the time is grinding up,nothing wrong with going long,just never liked that job
 
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satch,i short because the pullbacks are quicker,,market the majority of the time is grinding up,nothing wrong with going long,just never liked that job

the problem might be your looking at market thru a myopic lens..all you see are shorts? why? why short everything alltimes?
 
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the problem might be your looking at market thru a myopic lens..all you see are shorts? why? why short everything alltimes?
lazy,i just watch half the market or afraid of the downside,these are scary markets to me
 
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