ES Journal Archive (2011)

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Quote from gmst:

Sounds plausible, but frankly improbable. Let me explain why i think so: Quants care about arbitrage relationships between index and stocks, pairs among stocks, baskets of stocks, quants program level II order book - with the aim of making intra-day profits in a low volatile manner. I am very sceptical of the idea that quants program H&S patterns and that too on intra-day data.

Imo, H&S patterns do work in markets on longer time frame, because of human large position traders (private individuals, banks, funds etc), who look at the price action over a longer time period and can take and keep positions worth 1000 contracts over multiple days/months. I think this kind of money flow and the traditional knowledge of patterns is the reason behind the patterns working on a longer time frame.

But I could be wrong.
you are both right,smaller pools of money can move in and out faster,bots,intraday hns and ihns are accum or distribution for intraday,larger money rides the swings
 
Quote from gmst:

Sounds plausible, but frankly improbable. Let me explain why i think so: Quants care about arbitrage relationships between index and stocks, pairs among stocks, baskets of stocks, quants program level II order book - with the aim of making intra-day profits in a low volatile manner. I am very sceptical of the idea that quants program H&S patterns and that too on intra-day data.

Imo, H&S patterns do work in markets on longer time frame, because of human large position traders (private individuals, banks, funds etc), who look at the price action over a longer time period and can take and keep positions worth 1000 contracts over multiple days/months. I think this kind of money flow and the traditional knowledge of patterns is the reason behind the patterns working on a longer time frame.

But I could be wrong.

There are many kinds of bots.

Your assumption on the arb bots is correct but they are a very tiny bunch in the stock mkt nowadays.

Market making bots works like the size players you are thinking of and they dominate the tape in normal mkt environemnt.

Difficult to explain until you have worked on the other side of the fence.
 
Quote from ammo:

88-83 is where the overnight shorts are stuck,i think,doesn't bring into focus the shorts from last 2 weeks,mid range from 1270-1147 is 1208



smart post, ammo ... any thoughts about tranny action?
 
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