ES Journal Archive (2011)

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Great point on the insults. Regardless of who they come from, some guys on any given day are losing and gettin beat up by mr market. We all know how much we hate losses..."NOTHING...wrecks my day, like losses."-Gekko '84.

And btw, I bet most of us lost money today. Just a guess of course...
 
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its not the trading its the insults,who needs it,the market will slap you around enough,then there is an air that you see what others don't,we are all watching the same movie,stop putting folks down,chopped your post just to point out ,since you seem to be blind to the fact,that you are stuck on yourself,forget the ego ..hard to believe anyone who hasn't learned to put the kabosh on his ego ,ever makes any money

Blotto: "My experience at ET is filled with irony. I leave myself completely out of my posts and just give suggestions based on sound reasoning and testable arguments with no mention of how I trade and my results. Outcome - people give me ad hominem arguments."

Blotto, as ammo pointed out and has pointed out as long as I've known him here, ego is a trader's undoing, either sooner or later.

There's a concept in psychology known as "projection": "a defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people."

NoDoji just gives suggestions based on sound reasoning and testable arguments, and elucidates how she trades and the results. Outcome - Blotto gives her ad hominum arguments and insults.

Blotto, I noticed you called a short entry on the CL thread that was nearly to the tick of an ascending upper trend line on the 5-minute chart. Seems eerily like you're using standard price action strategies, though you're fading rather than enjoing the with-trend ATM machine on the way up. Yet you've insulted me over sharing the same PA strategies with others.

What was missing (or seemed to be, but I didn't see your original post, only the part that was quoted), was where your protective stop would have been placed on that short and what your minimum profit target zone was. Would you have stopped out at 98.60, 99.00, 99.80? Would you have averaged down at those levels, expecting price would eventually regress?

I challenge you to spend a day in Skype with me and my fellow CL traders and demonstrate in real time your intraday market prowess. Then if you want to insult others, at least we can all say, "Yeah, he's a sonofabitch, but he sure can trade."
 
Most hilarious (and sad) posts are when ammo speaks about others egos, when he is an expert at:

1-countertrend trading (because the market is obviously wrong) and...
2-averaging down on his entries (because of course the market is even wronger now at higher levels).

Most amazing is that he has been doing it for 25 years (or so he says) and still does not have a wad of his own, but needs "backers money" to perpetuate his trading addiction.

Oh yeah, he is very polite, and positive, and affable, etc, etc, etc.

I'm sure Madoff was charming as well (on a much larger scale), and certainly David Mobley was...a protege "supertrader" con artist of Van Tharp...etc, etc, etc...

If you haven't got your wad after 25 years trying, at least you should make peace with yourself and your EGO, and God, and go out with some dignity. We already know, you and me, that you aren't going to change, and certainly the market is not going to change for you.

How about them apples ammo?. It's much easier to dish it out than taking it in no?. Look in the mirror. I don't need the answer.

It is almost painful to see you instructing others in exactly the wrong things to do. Almost.

You are only fooling/conning yourself, at the end. Let's see you admit it.
 
I don't want to jump into this personal attack pool head first, let alone join in at all.

But, I'm afraid to say that I believe pushpull has a genuine point... ammo, I can't see your "beef" in your trading skill anywhere. Today was clearly a losing day for you, even if you say you were up 7 handles, based off of your posts, you were down. If you have some great trades ammo, please share them real time. I'd be happy to swap trading ideas with you.

Sometimes we all expect too much, so it's important to not over expect and then e disappointed.

See y'all tomorrow morning.
Quote from PushPull:

Most hilarious (and sad) posts are when ammo speaks about others egos, when he is an expert at:

1-countertrend trading (because the market is obviously wrong) and...
2-averaging down on his entries (because of course the market is even wronger now at higher levels).

Most amazing is that he has been doing it for 25 years (or so he says) and still does not have a wad of his own, but needs "backers money" to perpetuate his trading addiction.

Oh yeah, he is very polite, and positive, and affable, etc, etc, etc.

I'm sure Madoff was charming as well (on a much larger scale), and certainly David Mobley was...a protege "supertrader" con artist of Van Tharp...etc, etc, etc...

If you haven't got your wad after 25 years trying, at least you should make peace with yourself and your EGO, and God, and go out with some dignity. We already know, you and me, that you aren't going to change, and certainly the market is not going to change for you.

How about them apples ammo?. It's much easier to dish it out than taking it in no?. Look in the mirror. I don't need the answer.

It is almost painful to see you instructing others in exactly the wrong things to do. Almost.

You are only fooling/conning yourself, at the end. Let's see you admit it.
 
C'mon everyone, most people here should know what to expect on a public forum of this type. You can't trust anyone, PERIOD. I've come here to have a laugh or two, find some common ground with a couple of people that have similar interests as me, and MAYBE find a little insight from the regular contributors. I don't care if someone is paper trading, trading 50 cars, or trading button flare pins from the Outback Steakhouse. If they are polite, respectful, and interested in sharing, then I will tune in to read what they have to say. There is no retail "edge" on the ES that could be ruined by publishing it in this forum, I am more certain about that over anything.

Anyone here arguing, or asking for people to prove this or prove that, just and spend more time with your family instead. It will be time better spent for sure!
 
Geez, had a resting short @45, got filled and stopped out 2 points higher all in one second. Some douche bag bought 3,000+ cars. Did some euro-head find a few hundred billion in the seat cushions? EUR problem solved?
 
Hi All - just wondering if there is a chat room of sorts so that we can actually post real time calls and share ideas easily? I am not sure the forum interface is very suitable for such a purpose.

Cheers
 
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