ES Journal Archive (2009 - 2010)

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Quote from petty1978:

#1 My company is a "black box" trading business. I have plenty of time Pekelo.

#2 Its MY company.

#3 If you think you can deduct how I trade from these random trades then kudos to you.

#4 If you "go by" peoples trades in here I would suggest you only learn from them not try and produce income from them.

I am going to respond here against my better judgment. Welcome petty, you can post all you want here. I think that the moderator may have an issue with the type of depth discussion on the system trading. I think some general discussion of es and systems is fine, but you personally may get more from starting an es trading system forum. It seems like you are seeking some comraderie and I do believe what you are posting has value. There is a long time tradition here at et of hating on those who may at some time turn into a vendor/system seller. I am thinking this is where some of the tension is coming from. A lot of newbies have bought systems and been burned. I realize that you have said you are not selling anything, but some folks are sceptical. I wish you good luck in your trading. Also people are reminded to use ignore where necessary. I have some people on ignore not because I don't like them but their posting can be a distraction to what I am doing. No one is offended by the ignore button. Let us know if you start a systems thread. Good trading. :)
 
I admitted there is no value. I started to trade very early today around ET 3:40am, first did some crude trading, fruitless (tried to pick a bottom), then started to focus on ES/NQ, the first trade I already posted, a bottom picking at 1038.5. I found real-time posting could seriously hammer my attention (I need draw my line plus caculate measured move level, figure out where bulls and bears will react most, pay particular attention to those turning points: you know those are opportunities) so normally I will not post my real time trades.


Quote from NoDoji:

I see no value in posts like this. Either call your trades live or post your time & sales blotter when you make this post so we can see how you managed to capture twice the entire day's range.
 
Quote from trader198:

I admitted there is no value. I started to trade very early today around ET 3:40am, first did some crude trading, fruitless (tried to pick a bottom), then started to focus on ES/NQ, the first trade I already posted, a bottom picking at 1038.5. I found real-time posting could seriously hammer my attention (I need draw my line plus caculate measured move level, figure out where bulls and bears will react most, pay particular attention to those turning points: you know those are opportunities) so normally I will not post my real time trades.

Gotcha, but a cut-n-paste of a trade blotter to accompany the claim "made 63 pts on ES" only takes about 3 mins. Otherwise, there is no information of any value to anyone in posts like this.

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who would love to see exactly how you made 63 pts today and it only takes a couple mins to post the attachment.
 
Quote from kinggyppo:

I am going to respond here against my better judgment. Welcome petty, you can post all you want here. I think that the moderator may have an issue with the type of depth discussion on the system trading. I think some general discussion of es and systems is fine, but you personally may get more from starting an es trading system forum. It seems like you are seeking some comraderie and I do believe what you are posting has value. There is a long time tradition here at et of hating on those who may at some time turn into a vendor/system seller. I am thinking this is where some of the tension is coming from. A lot of newbies have bought systems and been burned. I realize that you have said you are not selling anything, but some folks are sceptical. I wish you good luck in your trading. Also people are reminded to use ignore where necessary. I have some people on ignore not because I don't like them but their posting can be a distraction to what I am doing. No one is offended by the ignore button. Let us know if you start a systems thread. Good trading. :)

Thanks for your words.

I sincerly am not looking to sell anything. I guess I don't even know how I have even hinted at that? I trade privately. I don't even have a public website. Its a portal.

I have only tried to share some information about the ES. By no means is it complete. I don't know anybody in here. I am only looking to explain some ways I used to use when I traded w discretion, allowing me to understand the ES and stocks more in depthly that allowed me to move into full automation.

I have no desire to discuss automated trading and the depths of that. However, because I am new I assumed a few things. One being that when a trade is posted that it isn't a traders entire arsenal. I do not have the ability to post all of my trades. I do not have the ability to explain in detail how I run my business or how I manage the money via trades.

This forum is not for that and I assumed that was a given.

I misunderstood what this forum was about I guess or I have pissed off its most respected participants...

I want to help people learn how to trade the ES without indicators if they desire to see learn type of trading. It has its merits.
 
If you have some NT code, I would be more than happy to take a look since I do use NT 7.

Quote from petty1978:

And if you like take every trade I have posted and run the math. I started in this forum last Monday. These are random trades not part of any money management scheme. Then post it and I will verify your results.

And I offered bighog NT code and he refused.
 
here is the first trade on crude this morning, the time is around 3:40AM ET. late I posted one real time trade on Cl_REDUX, I saw no one there, it is a fruitless trade.
last night actually I want to stay trading, I think there are great opportunities there because of the gap down in the AH opening, I stop trading around 10:00PM ET, lost 100ish bucks on crude.
thought to get up early to bottom picking, get up to bathroom, and saw all market drop hard just as I imagined, and my bottom fishing point (YM 8819 was hit) I started to do trading. the first one is a winner, then fruitless. around 6:00am, a key time, most time the market either is in HOD or LOD, I jumped in ES there. normally I trade NQ, since ES seems drop harder than ES, that attracted me.
most are several points scalping, actually when the market hits 1062, I started to post several trades, my aim is to warn some guys to go short: that is play fire. I missed the move from 1073 to 1084, I need take care of my kids (they are coming from schools)



Quote from NoDoji:

Gotcha, but a cut-n-paste of a trade blotter to accompany the claim "made 63 pts on ES" only takes about 3 mins. Otherwise, there is no information of any value to anyone in posts like this.

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who would love to see exactly how you made 63 pts today and it only takes a couple mins to post the attachment.
 

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Personally I don't care for your company or black box because they are irrelevant to this journal. (and of course there is no black box)

Quote from petty1978:

#3 If you think you can deduct how I trade from these random trades then kudos to you.

Now since I was member of the kindergarten debate team I know by pure logic there are 2 possibilities:

1. Your randomly chosen posted trades ARE NOT representative of the rest of your trades.

Then why do you post them? There is simply no point doing so...

2. They ARE representative of the rest.

Then you talk too much and trade shit, losing another -11 points on the last trade (SL got hit after the close), so you ended today with -21 points...

Now for fun, I will keep running the stats on you for a few days, then put you on Ignore.

So better choose better trades for tomorrow!! :)
 
Quote from trader198:

here is the first trade on crude this morning, the time is around 3:40AM ET. late I posted one real time trade on Cl_REDUX, I saw no one there, it is a fruitless trade.
last night actually I want to stay trading, I think there are great opportunities there because of the gap down in the AH opening, I stop trading around 10:00PM ET, lost 100ish bucks on crude.
thought to get up early to bottom picking, get up to bathroom, and saw all market drop hard just as I imagined, and my bottom fishing point (YM 8819 was hit) I started to do trading. the first one is a winner, then fruitless. around 6:00am, a key time, most time the market either is in HOD or LOD, I jumped in ES there. normally I trade NQ, since ES seems drop harder than ES, that attracted me.
most are several points scalping, actually when the market hits 1062, I started to post several trades, my aim is to warn some guys to go short: that is play fire. I missed the move from 1073 to 1084, I need take care of my kids (they are coming from schools)

How about the ES fills in the same format?
 
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