lol. Market does seem to go up like 75% of the time, so i guess statistically the odds are deffinitely in your favour when you are long. And with patient entries the market always bails you out with long trades, so i can see where the perma bulls are coming from. Not really my style tho. (although the guys who keep averaging into SHORT trades must have a deathwish! we all know that 20,000 dow for example is a CERTAINTY at some point in the future.)