ES Journal Archive (2006 - 2008)

[volente_00]

Quote from iloveoptions:

First of all, there's no need to pollute this thread with name calling, it's usually a sign of insecurity and further shrinks your credibility. Second of all, I have not attacked anyone as there's no need for that, and respect very much the basis of this journal. However, I do have issues with vague postings that are not presented in the correct format that every one follows and I'm merely asking you to do the same. I do post my trades and they're clear, short, and to the point. Also, I'm an options trader first and foremost, if you're interested in options, you can easily look me up on C2 anytime you choose, but there's no reason for me to spam this thread. Nobody likes it.

S&P trading is just a side-hobby for me, and like everyone else that comes here, I'm here to learn and eventually grow. Therefore, I'm constantly looking for honesty and talent in trading the spoos.

How many trades did you post on this thread today ?

How many post's did you make attacking others on this thread today ?


The answers speak for themselves.





if you don't like my postings, then put me on ignore.


Personally, I would like to hear any input you have about spy options and strategies that you trade.

 

[traderwann]

Quote from blaster1:

There is no way to verify whether you traded it or not since you didn't post your entry here. You have no right to come in here and brag after the fact. Either put up or shut up!

Ok so I'm new here and I'm sure I'll regret posting this after being continuously flamed. Anyhoo, it is completely IRRELEVANT whether someone actually traded or paper traded or just watched.

Look at it this way, an example. There are two traders both trading the exact same system. One trader is making millions with 200+ contracts and the other is paper trading. Now, the paper trader posts here and the real trader doesn't. See? It's whether the system works that matters, not whether it's "verifiably traded" by you me or Joe or Jill or Bob. Heck, give me a chat room or message board where someone paper trades successful moves all day long and I'll pay money for free money in return! Frankly, whether they just passing the dutchie to the left hand side without any idea of how a trading platform works or what it is, really doesn't matter. What matters is whether the trade(s) work and whether it was posted before the fact. Whether anyone took it is, again, more than 110% irrelevant.

On the idea of verification. The level was called in advance. PERIOD. Do you have short term memory? Either the level worked or it didn't. Period. Whether someone took a trade +.50 points or -.75 points or bang on at XXXX.XX, it doesn't matter, it's completely irrelevant.

I miss trades all the time because I can't always pull the trigger. This by no means affects the validity or accuracy of a system and neither does whether someone holds your hand posting an exact entry after giving you an exact level hours before hand. Either the post was before the deal or it wasn't. Either the trade worked or it didn't. End of story. Fade or trade!

I agree no one has a right to brag about losing trades, but, as another example, a system developer that simulates trades historically and doesn't even paper trade in real time, has EVERY right to brag about a successful methodology.

 

[volente_00]

Quote from traderwann:

Fade or trade!

My favorite book and idol.

 

[ASusilovic]

Quote from Buy1Sell2:

Please indicate initial stop and target (if any).

Seems 1370 might be good support. Good old neighbourhood bank Goldman Sachs is expecting that some managements will begin to guide down expectations for 2Q earnings, to avoid disappointments during the next reporting season....

Don´t have any reason to mistrust reasearch by GS...so far...

 

[volente_00]

Quote from ASusilovic:

Seems 1370 might be good support. Good old neighbourhood bank Goldman Sachs is expecting that some managements will begin to guide down expectations for 2Q earnings, to avoid disappointments during the next reporting season....

Don´t have any reason to mistrust reasearch by GS...so far...

you still short 400 from 1415 ?


Is your target 1370 ?

 

[iloveoptions]

Quote from volente_00:

How many trades did you post on this thread today ?

How many post's did you make attacking others on this thread today ?


The answers speak for themselves.





if you don't like my postings, then put me on ignore.


Personally, I would like to hear any input you have about spy options and strategies that you trades.

Look, why don't we just put this to rest for now, as it's getting late and the wifey is calling for some attention Tomorrow is another day and another conquest in the S&P. My trades today were option trades in the s&p futures options that were part of a straddle and were irrelavent to post for the purpose of this journal. I will grant you your wishes and put on some s&p futures options in realtime and we can talk more about my style of trading. Good night.

 

[volente_00]

Quote from blaster1:

Today is the second up day not counting Tuesday. Am I missing something?

Today was the third day of the move.

 

[MandelbrotSet]

Quote from ASusilovic:

Don´t have any reason to mistrust reasearch by GS...so far...

 

[volente_00]

Quote from iloveoptions:

Look, why don't we just put this to rest for now, as it's getting late and the wifey is calling for some attention Tomorrow is another day and another conquest in the S&P. My trades today were option trades in the s&p futures options that were part of a straddle and were irrelavent to post for the purpose of this journal. I will grant you your wishes and put on some s&p futures options in realtime and we can talk more about my style of trading. Good night.

Consider it done.
Posting your trades is of little benefit. It is in your reasoning that the true gold lies.

 

[MandelbrotSet]

Quote from iloveoptions:

Look, why don't we just put this to rest for now, as it's getting late and the wifey is calling for some attention Tomorrow is another day and another conquest in the S&P. My trades today were option trades in the s&p futures options that were part of a straddle and were irrelavent to post for the purpose of this journal. I will grant you your wishes and put on some s&p futures options in realtime and we can talk more about my style of trading. Good night.

Hey, for real?

That'd be great, because volente_00 is one of the most consistent traders who has been around for a long time, and I'm sure others appreciate his contributions to the thread.

Your contributions, on the other hand, besides being argumentative and off-topic haven't really shown anyone anything (and exactly why are you here?).

But thanks for letting us know you trade.