ES Journal Archive (2006 - 2008)

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I think they will be slightly negative.
"they" lifted market so the bang from top will just kick it on correct place of channel - where it will be by the way if no lift.

If numbers leaked /I believe many know them/ and were positive surprise than it will jump up not crawl.
 
Quote from Spectre2007:

the moving average for NFP indicates continued weakness projected out, with significant erosion in multiple industries.

notice the MM's kept the market propped up near the highs so they could print a break and run on stops above 1380 for a split second before thrashing it...

checkout how much of a scam trading is...huge players can literally track price up to any levels to blow the stops in the direction they wish.
 
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notice the MM's kept the market propped up near the highs so they could print a break and run on stops above 1380 for a split second before thrashing it...

checkout how much of a scam trading is...huge players can literally track price up to any levels to blow the stops in the direction they wish.


How do they do that, though? No "market makers" in futs -- at least in the classic sense....
 
Quote from tortoise:

How do they do that, though? No "market makers" in futs -- at least in the classic sense....

the largest investment banks/trading houses on the street 'track' each others movements and work in a large herd mentality. The largest dictating the direction, whether it be a FED sponsored action or not.

Essentially acting as market makers.

edit: watch for distribution up here.. as the MM's use algo's to get net short over a longer period of time.
 
Yes, but index futures are depending on stock prices.

Moreover remember like Kerviel said that his obligation was market making in futures mainly Stoxx 50?

I do not know the mechanism but es can not move independently on stocks in it.
Somebody must offer liquidity.

Btw, what now? Kick down but we are crawling up again.

Another kick down at begin RTH expected but it will be "buffered" with same ease?
 
Quote from Spectre2007:

the largest investment banks/trading houses on the street 'track' each others movements and work in a large herd mentality. The largest dictating the direction, whether it be a FED sponsored action or not.

Essentially acting as market makers.


Yeah but...but...but...why should GS give a shit about Joe Trader's one-lot stop at 88?
 
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Yes, but index futures are depending on stock prices.

Moreover remember like Kerviel said that his obligation was market making in futures mainly Stoxx 50?

I do not know the mechanism but es can not move independently on stocks in it.
Somebody must offer liquidity.

Btw, what now? Kick down but we are crawling up again.

Another kick down at begin RTH expected but it will be "buffered" with same ease?

the SP500 is a weighted index, RENTEC sends in huge volume of trades in 'stocks'... a program buy or sell order in a select few weighted stocks controls the index.
 
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Yeah but...but...but...why should GS give a shit about Joe Trader's one-lot stop at 88?

GS doesn't care about Joe Trader but other hedge funds who aren't in the inner circle, these pools of money are worth 'gaming'..100s of millions of dollars..not to mention their derivatives exposure in individual stocks.
 
Quote from Pholeuon:

Yes, but index futures are depending on stock prices.

Moreover remember like Kerviel said that his obligation was market making in futures mainly Stoxx 50?

I do not know the mechanism but es can not move independently on stocks in it.
Somebody must offer liquidity.

Btw, what now? Kick down but we are crawling up again.

Another kick down at begin RTH expected but it will be "buffered" with same ease?

Yes. ES can move independently from the stock prices forever.

That's how Fed stepped in in 87 to stop the crash.

Once someone drive the index future to a direction that is so overpriced (or underpriced), tons of program buy/sell orders will kick in to "lock-in" the profit between the future contracts and the underlying stocks.

Remember one simple fact - 95% of the outstanding shares in stocks are valued by the change of hands of the remaining 5% shares traded day-in, day-out.
 
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