ES Journal Archive (2006 - 2008)

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Hey B1S2,

whats your take on the market?

its almost as if we are about to print a double top on the daily chart. The symmetry on the leg down and up is classic.

it would have been more constructive if we churned and based out at the lows before making a move higher.

Chris
 
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That is a ridiculous statement/question. Well managed risk IS success, regardless of profit or loss.

GOLDEN


Why?


At this level, trading is all about psychology

Good trading,

JJ
 
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Hey bsd23,

whats your take on the market?

its almost as if we are about to print a double top on the daily chart. The symmetry on the leg down and up is classic.

it would have been more constructive if we churned and based out at the lows before making a move higher.

Chris

Market has experienced a short term trend change and we are currently in a downtrend. Only shorts should be taken. I must confess , I attempted that intraday trade at 1518.50 short and then held it overnight when the daily chart was not overbought yet. . That was not good. The daily chart has not yet signaled the correct short signal, but will soon I believe.
 
that 1505 post double bottom has to be revised 20 points lower to 1485.00 since, on the downturn they took out 1525, on the first leg. The second leg is usually about 20 points lower. And its when everyone throws in the towel and screams the bull is dead.
 
It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

What matters is that you have a methodology which enables you to consistently determine what is the appropriate action, the time it should be taken, places judicious risk controls in place and allows you to maximize the potential gains while being able to take a profit when necessary.

Notice I said nothing about trend, but for the record, it hasn't turned yet.

JJ
 

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Friends,

We are going higher. Expect very soon the S&P500 cash at 1560,00. Just look for good prices to entry long.

The momentum and fundamentals are still good. No change in the signals yet.

Keep the eyes open.
 
from talkingtrader.net (not an advertisement) - just quoting the source.

JJ
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Global Chess Games

When I first began day-trading in 1994, it wasn't a profession that very many people knew about, were interested in or could enter. Trading at one of the first "upstairs" firms, aptly called "Electronic Trading Group," my objectives mystified mostly everyone but the floor traders who had invited me to learn to trade.

In fact, when I moved to NYC to build a trading desk, I could not get anyone on Wall street - including the NYSE and clearing firms - to understand how the traders would make money. The only model they knew was the commission model. The idea that anyone could make money buying low and selling high was unbelievable to most everyone.

If you had an internet connection, it was "dial-up." But in fact, an those internet connections spread throughout the late nineties so did the tech boom. As more people were able to "invest" via a telephone line and a computer, more people translated their awe of the technology into positions in tech stocks.

Fast forward a few years to the spread of broadband data connections and now the whole world becomes one big trading floor. Thousands of traders in every country can now trade in the smallest of time frames.

What is the point?

Traders all over the world are sitting in front of screens. They have quote data and technical indicators and at least a modicum of a system. They all want to buy low and sell high.

Everyone has the same data. Mostly everyone has studied it and devised a semblance of a plan. Many of those plans revolve making a move based on similar conceptual ideas - moving averages, standard deviation from the mean bands, overbought, oversold.... you name it.

In order to consistently take money from this global chess game, you need to think about what is everyone else likely to do in any given scenario. Where are they going to put on positions and where are their stops likely to be? Now you might be saying, "well I can't know that." You can if you step back and think about the aggregate.

Thinking like this will give you a couple of advantages - it will help you stay out of the random chop and it will deter you from trying to buy bottoms and sell tops.

What impact would that have on your results? Let me tell you - it will save you capital and it will save you psychological energy. By saving both, you will have more of both to spend when you are very clear about why you are going to make a move and what is the move most of the other players have made.

It isn't you against those numbers - it is you against people who have all the same numbers and you against yourself. Build yourself a scaffolding of edges around those realities starting with an understanding that you are trading with a trader on the other side of the world who has done just as much work as you, or more.

It really is a global, electronic, anonymous chess game. It is a chess game nevertheless.
 
talking about chess games.

I was thinking what a group of large institutions could do. The average oscillation in the spooz been around 25 points. If your a large institution, and at a equity desk. You must be allocated a certain degree of capital. Take a few of these large desks, and pretty much these desks within seconds know what the other desk is doing. So a herd psychology among the elite builds up over the years.

Once you've expended your capital and accumulated inventory, the result of accumulating inventory, is that price gaps up. But now you have paper gains on this inventory and you need to unload and recycle the 'cap'. So basically your unloading once a short term cyclical top hits. So a distribution phase sets in, yet you have a underlying bid at preset floors so that the price level is preserved. So everytime a price gaps up your selling and if a price gaps down your buying, and your the market maker. But basically the bid stays in place till most of your inventory is unloaded at small spurts up in price.

And thats what I think the intraday price action was friday. A distribution pattern results on the charts. And once your cap levels are whole, now you can remove the bid and slam it down in price, after a short position is effect. And those slow to move, become forced to buy the tops and sell the bottoms, the overleveraged and undercapitalized.

But the size of the cyclical waves gives an indication of the inherent capitalizations and market moving ability of a group of large institutions. I think looking for those buying and selling tails on the charts is key for determining distribution.
 
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I think looking for those buying and selling tails on the charts is key for determining distribution.
Spec, in your work, what chart timeframe(s) do you find work best for observing these buying and selling tails at the beginning of playable price moves (e.g., 5+ points on the ES)?
 
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