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Quote from Buy1Sell2:

Here's my 60 minute chart (with a few bars somehow missing). You could be right about correction, but there isn't anything suggesting that on this chart. It is only one time frame though.

It's just conjecture on my part. The pattern would have to shape up to prove it true.

For the ES, because of the higher performance bond (well, it's high for me) I perfer to play the guerilla hit-and-run game, staying in the context of the perceived (perception is reality in this game) trend and scalp it.

JJ
 
Quote from JimmyJam:


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For the ES, because of the higher performance bond (well, it's high for me) I perfer to play the guerilla hit-and-run game, staying in the context of the perceived (perception is reality in this game) trend and scalp it.

JJ

Sooo, your goal has changed... make money from a trade instead of squeezing every tic out of a trade. You'll catch a few of the latter anyway. :)

Welcome to MY world.

Osorico
 
Quote from apex82:

What indicator is that? My oscillator based indicator looks a lot different on the 30 minute then yours.

It's a standard 14 RSI. --Continuous Chart.
 
Quote from dmartin:

Buy1Sell2:

Do you really trade off those charts? If so, how?

DMartin

Yes , but not intraday. I use the same principles on daily, weekly monthly. I just buy or sell with a market order near the end of the day.
 
Quote from Buy1Sell2:

Yes , but not intraday. I use the same principles on daily, weekly monthly. I just buy or sell with a market order near the end of the day.

Would it not be just effective intraday?
 
Quote from apex82:

Would it not be just effective intraday?

The same principles and technicals intraday work longer term as well. I just don't like to spend so much time on trading to do it intraday. I would say that the reaction lows and highs of course are stronger longer term than intraday. I believe that is why we see a lot of stop outs intraday. :)

Talk to you all Monday.
 
Quote from apex82:

Would it not be just effective intraday?

Trading intra-day is a different mindset than position trading, and you have to pay attention to the opportunities that exist within a span of, oh, on the low end, 15 seconds and on the high end 5 minutes maxiumum.

Your methodology has to part of your identity (IOW, you don't have time to think or second guess yourself). It requires much more skillfull use of the performance bond requirements to get the best bang-for-the-buck out of your trade signals, and certainly not the last element, but maybe one of the reasons why B1S2 doesn't want to do it, it requires you to trade against the dominant long-term trend (by any measurement) to really max-out your trade opportunities.

At least, that's my take on the situation.

Good trading,

Jimmy Jam
 
Good one "Jimmie"

I really admire your comedic talent..Its as if you were trying to offer a real comment on trading intraday :)

My take on the question is a little different.

First, a successful mindset for trading is to prepare first, so that you have a game plan..Most decent professionals prepare a game plan similar to what a professional football coach uses. A set of "plays if you will, that he executes depending on what he sees. To go a step further, a good coach pretty much knows what to expect and with his game plan in hand, he waits until he sees what the other team is doing, then he sends in the signal to execute his strategy. In other words, most of the real decision making is done the night before.

Second, professional don't concern themselves with margin requirements. If you do, it is a sign that you are under capitalized. I realize this is a problem for retail traders, but if you take some time to research the topic you will see what I mean. Profitable traders don't think about margin when they are trading. They spend their time observing and waiting for tradeable signals.

Because skilled professionals have done their homework and they are often moving size, they have to concern themselves with getting favorable entry position, and setting up their exits. Retail traders don't need to worry so much about size issues but they still have to plan their exits. The idea that one has to use countertrend trades to "max out" a trade is well, just silly. There is only one way to estimate what a trade will bring, and that is to know how to evaluate the forces that create market balance and imbalance. Don't take it seriously, it is part of Jimmies comedy routine ("hey look at me, I'm a trader")

I know that the original poster believes that swing trading is a better way to go. When it comes to retail trading he is correct.
Properly prepared a retail trader has a better chance of succeeding than an intraday trader. Although the principles he uses do work intraday, the set-ups work better on the longer term because there is less noise.

Good luck

Steve
 
Quote from steve46:

Good one "Jimmie"

I really admire your comedic talent..Its as if you were trying to offer a real comment on trading intraday :)
Why thank you Stevie, I'll take your continued studying and commenting on my posts, and the feeble attempts of one-up manship, as the highest compliment. :D

My take on the question is a little different.

First, a successful mindset for trading is to prepare first, so that you have a game plan..Most decent professionals prepare a game plan similar to what a professional football coach uses. A set of "plays if you will, that he executes depending on what he sees. To go a step further, a good coach pretty much knows what to expect and with his game plan in hand, he waits until he sees what the other team is doing, then he sends in the signal to execute his strategy. In other words, most of the real decision making is done the night before.
Excellent analogy, I guess it shows my mastery of the concept that I am able to do so across multiple instruments at various frames of reference ... but as such, it only goes so far. Eventually, you're going to need to learn to read price action and anticipate what the market(s) do before they do it, if you keep working at, maybe eventually you will be able to reach this level of trading.

Second, professional don't concern themselves with margin requirements. If you do, it is a sign that you are under capitalized. I realize this is a problem for retail traders, but if you take some time to research the topic you will see what I mean. Profitable traders don't think about margin when they are trading. They spend their time observing and waiting for tradeable signals.
Uh, right :p . The effective use of margin and leverage are the key to maximizing one's trading potential, not to mention that if you're trading multiple markets using different strategies, it's an absolute requirement ... thanks for letting us know how a "professional" puts their assets to the highest and best use when trading leveraged instruments ... :) .

Because skilled professionals have done their homework and they are often moving size, they have to concern themselves with getting favorable entry position, and setting up their exits. Retail traders don't need to worry so much about size issues but they still have to plan their exits. The idea that one has to use countertrend trades to "max out" a trade is well, just silly. There is only one way to estimate what a trade will bring, and that is to know how to evaluate the forces that create market balance and imbalance. Don't take it seriously, it is part of Jimmies comedy routine ("hey look at me, I'm a trader")
LOL, once again you're putting your limitations and insecurities in the spotlight, not mine. It's apparent that you have trouble dealing with concepts which exist outside of your frame of reference ... more pity you, a square box isn't the solution to everything.

I know that the original poster believes that swing trading is a better way to go. When it comes to retail trading he is correct.
Properly prepared a retail trader has a better chance of succeeding than an intraday trader. Although the principles he uses do work intraday, the set-ups work better on the longer term because there is less noise.

Good luck

Steve

I'm sure you meant position where you typed retail in your hastily construed post, but that is nothing new, we've talked about that point ad nauseum, particularly the "noise factor", which B1S2 has devised a rather excellent work around to I might add, but thanks for trying, I'm sure you really meant to add something new to the thread.

In terms of a position (there's that word again) trader having a better chance to succeed than an intra-day trader, taken out of context the comment doesn't actually mean anything, to succeed at either endeavor a trader is going to have to possess considerable skill ... :) , and a good intra-day trader will take a position player apart due to his use of greater than 100% of an instruments' daily trading range, and skillful use of leverage and margin (oh, I forgot, you wouldn't know anything about that).

Good trading all,

JJ
 
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