ES Journal Archive (2006 - 2008)

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Quote from martys:

In my trading development, I "try" to implement things at my own level and work my way up slowly but I have to know where the danger is... If I don't know where the danger is then I might not even have a chance to get to the next level of development. :(

The danger usually is rushing the development stage or any stage of the trading path. Everyone wants to be making millions now. Although I believe that can be achieved long term, there are many years of development required.

I should also clarify, for the purposes of full disclosure, that I am currently trading on a simulator. A while back amongst all the failure I decided to implement a plan of attack that required certain hurdles to be reached before reaching the next stage. Here is my development process:

1. Ideas on how to use tools or combination tools in a unique way
2. Research to develop trading rules based on those initial ideas
3. Manual backtesting of those rules to prove their validity and that overall there is a positive expectancy.
4. Forward Test Stage 1: Just getting use to recognising the setups in realtime, building self trust in the signals and making any slight refinements that may be necessary. Final stage for any adjustments.
5. Forward Test Stage 2: Passing a defined profit objective over a 1 month time period.
6. Part-time trading to build a grubstake of 100k from 7k initially. I estimate this will take a maximum 4 years of part-time trading.
7. Full time trading. First year trading a 50k account and using the other 50k for living expenses. That way the account can build over time with no monthly withdrawals. The aim is to make a similar withdrawal on a yearly basis to cover living expenses for the year ahead.
8. End goal is to increase contract size, in line with max 2% constant risk of account equity, as account increases up to a maximum of 200 contracts per trade. Not sure how many years that takes.

The point is to split each stage into small goals. The development process I thought long and hard about to make it very rigorous. I wanted to "graduate" from every level. I guess it is maybe a bit like a fighter pilot training course. At every level you can fail, and many do. But, for those who reach the end they are very good at what they do.

You never lose anything by being conservative in the futures game. Nor is their any rush, in terms of time, to get to your goals. Futures trading is after all a losers game until you prove you are one of the 5-10% who can trade successfully.

I don't expect my system will stop working at any point. I wanted to trade something that should always work. However, if that happens it will be obvious if it is too much out of line with historical results. On the other hand, when the market has fundamental changes over time I do expect I might have to adjust the profit/stop criteria in line with changes in volatility. There's no denying if I was trading this system in 2000 when there were 70 point days in the ES, I might be using different stop/profit methods.

Cheers.
 
Quote from sosa1974:

B1, what upside target do you have at this point. I figure they will @ least test the 1331 hi. As per usual, your targets are getting hit. But what makes it so impressive is that you call these numbers out months before they happen. Thanks.

I believe that 1360 is attainable, but I will be very attentive to watching for my usual reversal signals. By the way, if we do hit that number, it will take out my call of 1325 as the top for he year-- in the interest of intellectual honesty.
 
Quick reminder: I am short term bullish, but long term bearish. I think that the recent correction we had is just a prelude to what will come and that wil be a very very large down move. We'll need the monthly chart to roll over along with the weekly for that move to happen.
 
Quote from LondonUSTrader:

The danger usually is rushing the development stage or any stage of the trading path. Everyone wants to be making millions now.


Hey London,

Thanks for the warning. I guess it is a matter of patience and getting used to things. The danger in my mind is more of not knowing where the danger lies both in the market and in personal development. I need to survive in order to have a chance... knowing the dangers help a lot.

Regards,
William
 
Quote from martys:

Hey London,

Thanks for the warning. I guess it is a matter of patience and getting used to things. The danger in my mind is more of not knowing where the danger lies both in the market and in personal development. I need to survive in order to have a chance... knowing the dangers help a lot.

Regards,
William

William

In the market you can quantify most risks and as long as you have the discipline to execute your stop there should be no problem. I enter a trade I straight away know this is what I'm risking, infact I ask myself are you willing to lose this money? the answer has to come back yes (the stop amount), I feel I have already sacrificed it so nothing further to lose here. If I ever adjust the stop and only slightly I do so when the evidence keeps mounting in my favor but there is a hardline stop that I would not exceed.

The ability to evaluate under fire is the experience thats required. Reminds me of what I read about the civil war where they found young dead recruits who had reloaded there rifles 20 times without firing a single shot.

The real dangers are psychological and each step forward will expose these things you have never though could affect you from your childhood to parents and marriage. Each person is unique in this regard. Each quality that may be considered a positive in trading will also have a downside that must be realized and overcome. I have found meditation and self hypnosis has helped me alot. Some recommend yoga. Positive visualization of your actions(self hypnosis) in trading has also been a major benefit to me.

Trading in the zone was of some limited help although others seem to go on about it.

When in a short term trade I keep my finger on the 'close at market' button if ever a massive buy/sell spurt hits its automatic. I dont wait for a retracement or explanation of such an action that has just happened.

As London stated you have to embrace uncertainty, you don't know when a Merrill fat fingered mistake could happen or black swan or terrorist attack but most times the tape will give you advance warning. Also the need for certainty is why some fail at trading, waiting for to much confirmation especially when scalping.

System development is hard work, scalping is easy why can people not make some money scalping while working and developing on their bigger goals, I think its the need for certainty they cannot let go of their indicators or something visual that tells them change is happening.

I would also recommend to anybody to go from simulator to trading 1 contract. I traded a very large amount of contracts in my naive early days and let me tell you 1 contract now has more emotional burden. Soon as you start losing, back to the simulator, and so on until you build up your contracts. There is absolutely no reason to lose any large amount of money if you do the above.

I always felt that doing the above I would miss the big win that was probably going to happen today.

The usual reply to the above is that it doesn't feel real or thats the way I learn, trading a real large amount of contracts etc The usual macho bullshit male ego stuff that leads to vengeance trading and also account and self destruction.

On that happy note, hope this has been of help. jmho
 
Quote from martys:

Hey London,

Thanks for the warning. I guess it is a matter of patience and getting used to things. The danger in my mind is more of not knowing where the danger lies both in the market and in personal development. I need to survive in order to have a chance... knowing the dangers help a lot.

Regards,
William

The danger should never be more than 2% of total liquid net worth. Keep it very simple and move on to other aspects of trading to tweak.
 
Quote from Buy1Sell2:

I believe that 1360 is attainable, but I will be very attentive to watching for my usual reversal signals. By the way, if we do hit that number, it will take out my call of 1325 as the top for he year-- in the interest of intellectual honesty.

With this target in mind do you add to your long positional on breakouts to the upside or intraday pullbacks. And since you liquidate longs moc on Friday's do you have a weekly limit on how much size you take. I'm trying to get a feel of how you approach postional plays. thanks
 
Quote from sosa1974:

With this target in mind do you add to your long positional on breakouts to the upside or intraday pullbacks. And since you liquidate longs moc on Friday's do you have a weekly limit on how much size you take. I'm trying to get a feel of how you approach postional plays. thanks

I would add on pullbacks which feature 60 minute chart strong bullish divergences. This is one change that I have made and is a result of this journal. I never used to look intraday for entries. Now, though I will look for these types of entries in the direction of the current trend. Or perhaps I will be able to catch the top a little closer like I did there at the bottom etc. I have used some of the information that I have gathered through my intraday trading as an additional tool for my position trading. Thus my positinal trading has evolved a bit from just using weekly and dailies and waiting out what I feel will be inevitable moves.
 
Hi BB and B1S2,

Yup, accepting the risk is certainly the mantra however it is not enough because low risk doesn't mean high quality. I was able to find low risk trades with some entry techniques before but my trading results were volatile... doing super one month and then hell days on the next. I became superstitious... Is there some kind of performance cycle like George Soros said in his interview? Is the grail found in the trading psychology? I got a super week, am I gonna give it back? I found out it's all bull shit.

Only after meeting Spike500 here not too long ago, that my whole perspective turns due to his kindness. The "real" key problem is I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TRADE - I don't know where the risks are. The risk is always on the opposite side of the trend. Yes, you can "potentially" lose money going with the trend but you will "potentially" lose more money going against the trend. Yes, you can "potentially" make money going against the trend but you will "potentially" make more money going with the trend. There is no superstition here. No trading psychology BS... Those are only useful when I am losing... i.e. on the wrong side of the market. Go with the trend and get the hell away from where the risks are. As to how to do it, I am still learning. :(

Good trading,
William
 
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