ES Journal Archive (2006 - 2008)

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Quote from Buy1Sell2:

I appreciate the question. I'd rather not say though so as to not try and one up people etc. I wil say that I initially started with 4 per unit when I started the journal. The number is different now as I gain confidence in what is evolving to be short term/swing trading and not really day trading. For purposes of the total profit figure, I am basing the profit here though on just one contract per unit.

Fair enough, Thank you. It looks like most of you guys are fairly successful in your tading methods. Good for you. I am fairly new to trading the eminis. I have been trading the Q's and IBM options for several years. This type of trading is a little different but a lot more fun. Method has been working well so far but I am still touching it up. Thanks for all your posts it has been helpful.

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Quote from sosa1974:

Digging thru a prior post here. The hedge last Friday to protect my short was jumping long on YM. Think of it as a crutch. 10 points on the ym contract is 50 dollars. One point on the ES is 50 dollars. My hedge comes in when they keep breaking thru resistance constantly. When the market does trend up 10 dow points is roughly one sp point. This makes it roughly the same risk/reward. 1:1 ratio. That Ym long saved me from short pains, and now you are seeing the profitable side. I'm sure this is what hedge funds do, but on a much grander scale.

But if YM pretty much follows ES, how can that be a hedge? You might as well open opposite positions in the ES.
 
Quote from porgie:

to the forum BOSSMAN ..B1S2........THE 45% results is very sad for me to see ....please strive to get that to well over 60% minimum.......the lower win loss ratio will begin to erode the one thing you or no one else can succeed without......confidence............the cut the losses short and let the winners run, is suitable for professionals only .........not guys like you and me........please don't be offended as i don't know you, but have a lot of respect for you based on the kindness you have shown me and many others on the forum...i wish you all the best, just want to see you come on with your progress.....trust me , i have all i need......to be happy with porgie's trading career ..not fishing for your stuff to help me..i am not here for any other reason except i enjoy the forum..and maybe can inject a little idea or 2 VOLENTE THE CHECK IS IN THE MAIL....RECONSIDERED IT......BEST WISHES MR..B1S2

Porgie, the more you post the more you make it clear you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. A higher winning percentage is nice but IT IS NOT THE GOAL!!!

The goal is to take more money out of the market. If I found a tweak to my system that caused my winning percentage to drop 5% but allowed my winners to be larger than before any trader worth their salt makes that adjustment. Some of the greatest systems ever developed win approximately 40% of the time. I guess you would have passed on thiose system and let the millions slip away because the winning percentage wasn't high enough.

If B1B2 stats are legit then he is light years ahead of you. Should he strive to improve winning percentage, of course. But NOT FOR THAT REASON ONLY. $$$ is the goal, not building confidence. Pay your wife or girlfriend to tell you how great you are everyday if that is what you need. My confidence grows when money is flowing into my account instead of out of it, regardless of winning percentage.

The reason I don't like you is becuase newbie traders who don't know that most people on these forums don't have a clue ask questions hoping for good advice. Your advice is always harmful, and best case it is very vague because you are not a successful trader. If your such a good trader offering advice as you do in the above quote why do you need a chat room?

Your history on ET with chat rooms is well documented. You never offer live advice or calls. When people in the Chat room have asked you to make a call with your 100% system, you decline. Pathetic.

I see you have never posted once on this thread about a position you took during the day. Why is that? Is it because it is easier to wait until the trading day is over and then critique everyone else on what they should have done which is what you seem to do?

You also made a post recently about how support and resistance trading doesn't work. I guess I have just been lucky all these years trading and writing systems to trade S&R. I believe it doesn't work for you but please don't influcence new traders stating that these are FACTS when the fact is that you have not figured out how to trade them.

You have mentioned many times that you trade moving averages and they work regardless of what other people say. Good for you ... they don't work for me but I don't go around posting that they are useless. They are useless to me, but maybe the holy grail to someone else. Your are not the keeper of all trading knowledge and you are hurting young traders with these Porgie FACTS.

I will probably get the standard reply from some of the guys here asking me to cool it, not post again, etc. If one newbie reads this and decides to pass on your advice it will be worth it.

Also, no need to reply with your standard "I will pray for you" post. If you want to pray for me, prayers are always welcome. I will pray for you to realize the damage you are doing to new traders by giving out bad advice. You may also want to work on that honesty thing, you know, the 100% thing.
 
porgie mocker,

newbie's might be newbies and they might not be newbies....regardless, they are big boys/girls....so if 500 people say volume support resistance oscillators such as stoch macd %r rsi bollinger bands fibonacci retracement pivots etc are all the magical answers to our problems.......but wait, the 1 and 2 minute charts are also great, that keeps u excited so u won't be bored, .....learn all u can about the market u r trading, .

then, here is a dumb guy with all negative opinions as to why maybe 3% of all individual traders succeed emini daytrading ....brutal truth.......most will never make it....few will................"trader".won't call live trades or any other.......then..called bad names, old man, loser, liar, ignorant, retard, which by the way is lowlife remark by mhase and much worse........and the newbie is "harmed" by what loser porge says.......?? why would a newbie in his right mind choose the dumb one to emulate....instead of the 500...........go with the herd is the correct answer.........safety in numbers.......all newbies, never listen to porgie.......he believes in 1 to 3 risk reward.......trading with the trend is best........times are irrelevant.......bar noise doesn't exist.......volume is distraction.......support/resistance points are made to be broken andleaves u whimpering in the dust.......indicator lines are golden when you find the ones that the millions can't find........because they won't work for them......5 years is average learning curve ......low percentage is bad, very bad except low percentage losing........all losses are bad, but will happen .........
 
Quote from romik:

But if YM pretty much follows ES, how can that be a hedge? You might as well open opposite positions in the ES.

Anything that limits a loss is a hedge. I was short @ 1324.75 5/5, didnt cover for a 2 pt gain. However when it started to to trade above 1324.75(previously a 6 yr hi), I knew we were in an uprtrend. At that point I could lock in the loss. Instead I bought Ym(this highly rare for me btw). When this showed a gain I covered, and added to the ES short getting my average price to 1328 @ the end of 5/5. This now became an overnite/positional play. And the rest is of course history.
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porgie mocker

need a chat room? think about that one......don't like me...i have all the friends i can afford.....thanks anyway......
 
porgie and porgie mocker,

Right now, you are just beginning to insult each other, but I am afraid it will expand to insulting others in the thread. Can you take the argument off line or keep it to constructive unflamed discussion of ES (and a little YM and NQ). Thanks guys.
 
Quote from porgie:

putting money in the bank after few points seen early in the trade being called flawed logic and final answer is because of flawed system.......not final answer.........scaling out with point targets is the smart trading choice..........scaling in is not........very not.......high % being anything over 70% which is not a challenge if u want it bad enough...coin flipping is about 50% think ab0ut it............my personal opinion ..the answer is to have a high%dependable system and know when the edge is present and what it is the edge value at the moment...already determined entry based on picture we see RIGHT NOW ...PUT THE PICTURE ON THE WALL IN FRONT OF YOU MAKING IT BECOME THE PICTURE YOU ARE WAITING FOR....the edge value is sometimes same sometimes not the same.........but always the edge ...THE EDGE IS YOUR PICTURE WHICH HAS GOTTEN YOUR CONFIDENCE IN IT SO HIGH THAT YOU CAN'T MISS IT BECAUSE YOU ARE WAITING TO SEE IT.....the edge which is required for system outperforming average trader's system performance....... average menaing no edge........or less.........it is not learning the million bits of market and trading information that is critical to our success it is the unlearning of the million bits of information that is critical to our success..........porgie original .......if u succeed emini trading u will know thiis comes true..........


I was going through the previous posts and found many to be very helpful. Porgies point of "scaling out with point targets is the smart trading choice..........scaling in is not" seems very logical to me.

I will be implementing this soon as I increase the number of contracts I trade. A while back Scientist a scalper here said that this was one of the most important things in he's trading. I think in my trading it will turn many loosers into break even's, many break even's into small gains and many gains into larger gains.

After I enter I will scale out with something like this 1/4 at 1/2pt, 1/4 at 3/4pt, 1/4 at 1pt and let the last 1/4 ride the move. Depending on the setup I will vary the targets but you get my drift.

This is suited to my trading style with tight stops as I want to see trades move in my favor soon after I enter. So scaling out will also be time based so that if it is not acting right I will automatically be reducing my risk.

OK back to figuring out B1S2 triple divergence setup!
 
Quote from BoyBrutus:


OK back to figuring out B1S2 triple divergence setup!

I'll try to find a decent one in the next day or two and post a chart. Divergences are usable in any time frame, but I find them much stronger on charts of 60 minutes or more. This is most likely due to the 60 minute chart and above having greater potential for higher profits per trade and the 60 is more in tune with the overall trend.
 
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