ES Journal Archive (2006 - 2008)

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wicked stuff there Sosa :cool:

Volume, Vix and patience are my edge. No need for hesitation on these type of days. Just take your stop loss if wrong. No need to hedge. When vix low volume low, I use no stop losses. Example last Friday, I had no stop loss on ES. I hedged with Ym (long). I shorted resistance and it didnt work (had gain but got greedy), but volume too low for me too justify covering for loss. lnstead I buffered it with a long. My goal that day was to break even and I did. This week is the fruits of being able to stay green with my trading style and capitalize when need be. Last 3 days :)
 
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I am still trying to figure this one out, Re: - YM vs ES.

1 point in YM=$5

1 point ES=$50

If you trade 1 lot on YM you would need it to gain 10 points to match ES's 1 point move. Also if you refer to range advantage on YM you would need to increase position size and what about commission increase? It's ~$3.70 on ES and ~$3 for YM, so to take advantage of more range on offer on YM you would have to increase your position like ~10 times more commission? Does it make sense? The only sexy thing about YM is narrow spread. Maybe I am just confused LOL

Digging thru a prior post here. The hedge last Friday to protect my short was jumping long on YM. Think of it as a crutch. 10 points on the ym contract is 50 dollars. One point on the ES is 50 dollars. My hedge comes in when they keep breaking thru resistance constantly. When the market does trend up 10 dow points is roughly one sp point. This makes it roughly the same risk/reward. 1:1 ratio. That Ym long saved me from short pains, and now you are seeing the profitable side. I'm sure this is what hedge funds do, but on a much grander scale.
 
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Digging thru a prior post here. The hedge last Friday to protect my short was jumping long on YM. Think of it as a crutch. 10 points on the ym contract is 50 dollars. One point on the ES is 50 dollars. My hedge comes in when they keep breaking thru resistance constantly. When the market does trend up 10 dow points is roughly one sp point. This makes it roughly the same risk/reward. 1:1 ratio. That Ym long saved me from short pains, and now you are seeing the profitable side. I'm sure this is what hedge funds do, but on a much grander scale.

Was it because you saw the Dow leading and YM has larger range? Otherwise why not exit and reenter on the ES? Thanks
 
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Was it because you saw the Dow leading and YM has larger range? Otherwise why not exit and reenter on the ES? Thanks

Nothing really to do with the range, just that in an up trend the 10 dow points equate to 1 sp point. It locks in the maximum you can lose when you enter the other side. Why not lock in? I was in at near 6 year his which is good enough for me to justify an entry. Like I said the entry worked but I got greedy on the short side. My system allows me to be wrong with the understanding that I can still capitalize on the Long side if need be. Its a crutch, preventing me from falling and taking a nasty spill. This also keeps my transaction costs lower. In this market, I believe you need a back up or its too scary. This is just my experience.
 
I have to say here sosa, that I must disagree without being disagreeable. This is in relation to the hedge. I think that it limits losses, but also limits the gains. I just think a smaller position size is the way to go and not hold up the gains that will happen when a good trade comes in. Also, I think it's too much work and as well, it is my belief that the equity markets, intraday anyway, are not nearly as deserving a hedge as many other markets. Equity markets are not generally very trendy and they revert to the mean more than most other markets.
 
Quote from sosa1974:

B1S2,

I look for only short set ups on the eminis (ES) and this looks like a nice one. The higher it gets the more comfortable I feel. Now if they are able to penetrate it again and finish above then I'll pause and wait to see how far they can run it before I short. We are nearing all time his on the s&p and dow, how much farther they can run on earnings is anyones guess. But there are enough economic factors that should help the short side. I use YM for my longs, though I rarely go long (hedge only). Today for me was a classic set up. I watched the Spy which opened @ 131.73 and how far they were able to drive it 131.79. Clearly a good sign since yesterdays hi was 131.86. Well anyway I was happy to see them rally into the close because I tend to be more apprehensive when they close weak. I only scalp so holding my positions is a problem which I'm looking to solve. I still have a prop mentality, which I'm looking to change.


Trust me, I rarely and I mean rarely go long. I agree hedging limits gains, but also losses too. Last Friday was just an exception, as I dont know how to read longs accurately. And yes the equity markets rarely trend nowadays which is why I hardly never feel the need to hedge. In fact it was my first long trade of the year. :eek:
 
wow, just a total obliteration to the downside. I should have kept trading!! Anyway you all have a good weekend. Lets see what next week brings. Maybe a test to the 200 day??
 
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