ES Journal Archive (2006 - 2008)

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Quote from murray t turtle:

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Figured Buy1sell2 liked the short side more;
as his nickname hints.:cool:

Actually most of trends in YM , ES have been long all year , except for occasional weekly, but figure B1 sell2 lives his nickname.

Ever thought about the NQ;
much more polar bear trends there today,
most of year,
tick size to be reduced in April.????????????????????????????????????????

Great to hear from you Murray. There will come a time when I favor the long side more than the short side. I do like to build position in either direction when I feel it is near or at a top or near or at a trough, but the main goal is not to get overextended while building the position. What I need to get a grasp of here is that the short term trades need to contain a better balance of shorts and longs in either an up or down market, whereas for positional trading, I can just take one side and build on that. As an aside, I use this strategy in grains etc also. ---I have only traded NQ or EN long term. I could look at that in the future, but right now am concentrating on the ES hurdle.
 
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Great to hear from you Murray. There will come a time when I favor the long side more than the short side. I do like to build position in either direction when I feel it is near or at a top or near or at a trough, but the main goal is not to get overextended while building the position. What I need to get a grasp of here is that the short term trades need to contain a better balance of shorts and longs in either an up or down market, whereas for positional trading, I can just take one side and build on that. As an aside, I use this strategy in grains etc also. ---I have only traded NQ or EN long term. I could look at that in the future, but right now am concentrating on the ES hurdle.

Hi B1S2, as you know building up a positional short trade in the S&P500 is different to short selling stock of an XYZ company, whose fundamentals do not match current valuation. Even that does not work a lot of the times, unless you really want to stick it through the pain.

I am just wondering how do you establish whether the S&P500 is overbought. Do you monitor all main stocks in the S&P or rely on your TAs?
 
I will look to weekly and monthly charts initially to see if we have an overbought/oversold situation or indicator divergence with RSI, MACD and MACD Histogram and where we are relative to BB. I then also apply that to the daily charts. By the way, we are no means in a big overbought situation right now. However, this is when I generally begin the process of averaging up into a position. Once I have several units on, I then will allow myself to take profits if we get a move and then it looks like it is going to retrace. Otherwise I will tend to let it run .
 
No trading today--just sat back and observed. I am still short 4 units in the short term account at average price of 1314.875. I will stop myself out on Sunday or Monday and then restart the trading using the short term charts. Over the weekend , I will be analyzing whether or not using price targets for profits would in the long run be better than looking for a trend to run. I imagine it is probably different on different days. Comments welcome and encouraged.
 
Quote from Buy1Sell2:

Great to hear from you Murray. There will come a time when I favor the long side more than the short side. I do like to build position in either direction when I feel it is near or at a top or near or at a trough, but the main goal is not to get overextended while building the position. What I need to get a grasp of here is that the short term trades need to contain a better balance of shorts and longs in either an up or down market, whereas for positional trading, I can just take one side and build on that. As an aside, I use this strategy in grains etc also.

---I have only traded NQ or EN long term. I could look at that in the future, but right now am concentrating on the ES hurdle.

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Buy1 sell2;
Interesting ,Art Collins[ elite derivatives journal ]made ;
a pretty good case for selling or shorting the S& P 500 ,
before 8;30 Chicago time, was the way I read it this mourning.

Frankly it did not make a higher high,which the best uptrends do;
but not that particular in this uptrend , just yet anyway.

:cool:
Figure with your experience , may make more money over time by trailing a stop in ES.

Usually like to enter a nice limit order [soon after entry/generous profit target] to close position.
Which does requires a nice trend to hit it.

Almost never execute a stock exit that way;
short or long.Derivatives move @ such speed, like that preplanning exit .

However since not all moves trend as much as preferred;
usually out by end of day anyway,
so would rather get something than nothing, if necessary.

So may cut a loss or snug a stop when its probable it will not trend as figured.
 
Quote from Buy1Sell2:

No trading today--just sat back and observed. I am still short 4 units in the short term account at average price of 1314.875. I will stop myself out on Sunday or Monday and then restart the trading using the short term charts. Over the weekend , I will be analyzing whether or not using price targets for profits would in the long run be better than looking for a trend to run. I imagine it is probably different on different days. Comments welcome and encouraged.

B1S2-

This little nugget on Stephen Vita's site, "The Alchemy of Trading":

"...the Commercials, the so-called "smart money" in the S&P 500 futures have ramped up their net short position to the highest level in more three years. Steve Briese, who wrote the book on Commitments Of Trader interpretation, calls that a "major sell signal."

Of course, you'd better have DEEP pockets to play their game.

PaperTrader
 
Quote from PaperTrader:

B1S2-

This little nugget on Stephen Vita's site, "The Alchemy of Trading":

"...the Commercials, the so-called "smart money" in the S&P 500 futures have ramped up their net short position to the highest level in more three years. Steve Briese, who wrote the book on Commitments Of Trader interpretation, calls that a "major sell signal."

Of course, you'd better have DEEP pockets to play their game.

PaperTrader


Thanks for the quote. How are you currently playing the SP?
 
it will be interesting to see whether S&P500 will hold 1300 level this week, you could be right in your decision to sell the market this time, though I still don't see it as short term trading, in a way you are still position trading with your current trade.
 
Quote from romik:

it will be interesting to see whether S&P500 will hold 1300 level this week, you could be right in your decision to sell the market this time, though I still don't see it as short term trading, in a way you are still position trading with your current trade.

yes this is correct. I am going to finish this trade out and then restart the short term trades using the shorter time frame charts. The reason that I am still in the trade is due to using the 60 minute chart and I have discovered that this too closely mirrors my position trading. Once I exit this trade, I will be back to entering the short termers like I did the first week.
 
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