Quote from Buy1Sell2:
I would say that the short term TF divergences are best when they agree with predominant daily trend. This is what I have learned in this journal. If trading against the trend, you have to stop out and raise the trade size on the next, which is also very lucrative when it does come in and reverse. Example of a possible 5 minute BLD in a market where the daily trend is up can be found currently on the Euro FX chart. The predominant trend is up. We've had a retracement with a BRD earlier today which was good for about 30 pips (normal in that market on a counter trend trade) and now we are looking at a possible 5 minute BLD. Odds are that the BLD will have a more extended gain than the BRD due to the uptrend---and Yes I am long.
Quote from Buy1Sell2:
Longer term position player looking to post here some shorter term ES trades to begin to get a feel for the intraday movements etc. Some positions will be held overnight and I will use this as a training ground to get stops put in at correct levels etc. It may take me a while to get good. I am used to holding positions for weeks and months.
First trade was short yesterday at 1289.75 (from another thread). I'm still short ESH6 as of now with the stop at 1297.50.

Quote from romik:
that was a busted trade and I've pretty much given up on short TF divergences as entry signals on short TFs, mainly for exits when trading wrbs.

Quote from Buy1Sell2:
I believe Romik, that the more and more I look at the short term intraday charts( I still review them even though I trade on the longer frames), that the double top or double bottom divergences seem to provide very good entries. For example, looking at the 5 minute, there was the Busted BRD, but now we have had a double top with some space in between and lower RSI and Histogram etc. and have seen a fairly quick retracement. This is of course, one of the prime patterns on a daily chart as well and may turn out to provide the very best opportunites intraday. Now with respect to the Busted BRD earlier, I think that it's probably a better bet to have the second Histogram peak significantly lower than the first, which we didn't get on that one. Not saying those don't work, but the significantly lower peak , I believe helps to define th strength of the BRD. Thoughts? Anyone?![]()
Quote from romik:
Aye skipper, I got nothing to add here, the main problem comes from time restriction between recognising a pattern and reaction lag, I am pretty much done with short TF divergences apart from exit signals as mentioned earlier, I still find it interesting to see which ones work and the ones that fail, there is just too much stuff to consider.
Quote from Buy1Sell2:
Do you still believe they have use for entry with longer frames?