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Day 5 results---

2 trades 1 winner 1 loser

Profit 1.75 pts = $87.50
Total commission=$18.81
Net profit= $68.69

Busy with other things today and missed a couple of good setups. I may just not trade on those days when I am going to be too busy to be attentive to the market.
 
Quote from spike500:

A system to define the trend.

but no matter how you define a trend - it will never tell you that the trend is going to continue - so you can't compare it to the streaming water - come what may.
 
Quote from gerry875:

but no matter how you define a trend - it will never tell you that the trend is going to continue - so you can't compare it to the streaming water - come what may.

i believe he wasn't trying to make a direct comparison. When swimming, would you swim against the flow hoping the flow will reverse? probably not. When trading if you take a position against the trend, it's quite risky to assume that market will reverse, unless your signals tell you that it's actually happening.
 
Quote from gerry875:

but no matter how you define a trend - it will never tell you that the trend is going to continue - so you can't compare it to the streaming water - come what may.

Yes it can tell me with a high accuracy that the trend will continue.
He warns me when the situation becomes dangerous.

So it's like hearing the Niagara Falls 5 miles before you reach them. Time to get out of the water.

After all that's the only usefull indicator: one that warns in advance for danger.
 
Quote from romik:

i believe he wasn't trying to make a direct comparison. When swimming, would you swim against the flow hoping the flow will reverse? probably not. When trading if you take a position against the trend, it's quite risky to assume that market will reverse, unless your signals tell you that it's actually happening.

you obviously don't understand. that's exactly what i pointed out - HOW do you know, what the trend is going to be in the near future? you never know - the trend can change in every second.
 
Quote from spike500:

Yes it can tell me with a high accuracy that the trend will continue.
He warns me when the situation becomes dangerous.

So it's like hearing the Niagara Falls 5 miles before you reach them. Time to get out of the water.

After all that's the only usefull indicator: one that warns in advance for danger.

whatever you use - if it works - fine. after all - anything that gives you some feeling (illusion) of certainty for your entry/trade can help.
 
Quote from romik:

This is a question for all reading this thread.

You are sitting at your desk and looking for a winning set-up monitoring indicators, volume, trend, etc. Let's face it, not something you would call an easy task.


The question is this: Is finding a losing set-up just as challenging as finding a winning one. Could you find a definite losing situation?

What do you think?
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romik;

1st] This is not a prediction, but animals do act very strange, before an earthquake, wasn't an eyewitness, but believe it happened in that earthquake in Tennessee;
where the Mississippi river backed up/flowed backwards.

2] People with market maker/specialist personality can & should trade more frequently than me;
so tend to stay out of opening -earthquake/first minute moves.

3.3]So as long as you have you stop planned,
we don't call trends predictions, thats wisdom,
or expect river to flow back normally.

4]Counter Trends & trends are about probabilities;
like the probabilities of entering underlying stock last hour for position/swingtrade ,
hardly ever enter a short term trade last half hour.[2 ;30 chicago time]

Last half hour derivative entry may or likely may not be enough ''flow'' for me [that pattern could possibly change];
maybe enough flow to exit @ end of day.


Not a prediction, simply some probabilitys.
:cool:
 
Quote from Buy1Sell2:

closing out short at 1283.00 3 pt loss times 2 units 6 pt total loss.



Gotta watch them T days, Usually if the market closes strong or closes weak, it will carry into at least the first 30 min- 1 hr of the following day unless some news occurs. There are times when this does not happen, but the odds are not in our favor to try to figure out when.
 
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