do not try to catch the exact apex/ nadirs late can be great...….although with years of staring at them forming u can begin to anticipate them but make them what they are...….swing his and swing los……late can be great….8:30 to 10:30 is primetime all American eminis…...cst……...if u do not believe that watch the size of bars increase dramatically at market open...…..never fail ur system before 9 oclock……...trend is friend....apex nadirs are zero starting points of new leg/trend/run...…...run has 3 legs...….normally....let apex nadir bar set if u wish...….everytime anytime.....very few "traders" here know what the nadir is...did u hear the rush to the iphones…….....very few people can trade well the eminis intraday...…….