I always take +5 and let 1/2 trail, or, if no significant range break has occurred in the direction of my trade, I will take +5 on half and +10 on 1/4 and let 1/4 trail. When I enter according to my plan, +5 is almost a given. Ridiculously easy to get +5 NQ's, imo. I call that pay day. Anything I get beyond that is most welcome. Stop losses are easy. If nothing else, right beyond the most recent extreme. But the one thing that might help some of those struggling to get this is to make profit taking just as easy. My suggestion is do not trade if you cannot trade a minimum of 2 contracts. Then, set yourself to take +5 NQ or +2 ES on one contract and let the other be your runner. If you then learn to identify a range and discipline yourself to only take trades at or near one or the other extreme, getting paid becomes surprisingly easy, imo.