ES Journal - 2013

Well that little 1-month correction we had was wiped out in 2 weeks or so...usually it's the other way around. Interesting times we live in. Also another complete crush of VIX, shows you long vol is equally dangerous to short vol...anyone who didn't immediately convert to short vol would be in a lot of pain right now.
 
Quote from TskTsk:

Well that little 1-month correction we had was wiped out in 2 weeks or so...usually it's the other way around. Interesting times we live in. Also another complete crush of VIX, shows you long vol is equally dangerous to short vol...anyone who didn't immediately convert to short vol would be in a lot of pain right now.

5/22/13 - 6/24/13. 33 calendar days, peak to trough. 23 trading days(sans weekends and holidays)

And for an encore return of "normalcy"... "Corrections" should last about 3.3 hours!

Interesting times indeed!!

Things that matter, matter when they matter.
Trade On!
 
An interesting data plot on corrections since the 2008 crash:
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It would be interesting to compare this with through to peak numbers...I'm willing to bet the trend is that returns to normalcy are becoming equally violent as the actual corrections themselves.
 
Quote from TskTsk:

Well that little 1-month correction we had was wiped out in 2 weeks or so...usually it's the other way around. Interesting times we live in. Also another complete crush of VIX, shows you long vol is equally dangerous to short vol...anyone who didn't immediately convert to short vol would be in a lot of pain right now.

selling vol is much more fun, but you can own tail risk vol at the same time.

i feel for you guys shorting this move. in a normal market you would be fine ..even as it trended higher..but this is not normal. i would suggest identifying the market realities (and not what you think should be the reality) and what really can move it in your time frame...ie: news..T/A, geopolitical, etc.

anyway good luck guys.
 
Quote from sellindexvol66:

selling vol is much more fun, but you can own tail risk vol at the same time.

i feel for you guys shorting this move. in a normal market you would be fine ..even as it trended higher..but this is not normal. i would suggest identifying the market realities (and not what you think should be the reality) and what really can move it in your time frame...ie: news..T/A, geopolitical, etc.

anyway good luck guys.

a lot of times when you identify a trend day waiting at least till the end of the day to put on a reversal position is helpful. Tomorrow is another day, insane move on nq today.
 
Quote from kinggyppo:

a lot of times when you identify a trend day waiting at least till the end of the day to put on a reversal position is helpful. Tomorrow is another day, insane move on nq today.

Actually, exercising patience to short above the days high in AH or the next morning is even better; because such extended moves tend to create aftershocks.
 
Quote from sellindexvol66:
i feel for you guys shorting this move. in a normal market you would be fine ..even as it trended higher..but this is not normal. i would suggest identifying the market realities (and not what you think should be the reality) and what really can move it in your time frame...ie: news..T/A, geopolitical, etc.

I'd argue that there is never any "normal" in a market, it will always be influenced by external factors. Things can fundamentally change and not mean revert, it has occured countless times before. I agree with you that one should identify market realities and accept them, instead of making up ones own reality of how things should be. Because in the end, your job is to make money and that's it...
 
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