Quote from tortoise:
Well we got our 1618...roughly 4 pt pullback (3.75, if one wishes to quibble).
Now, upward and tally-ho!
(interesting to see ES and ZB rising in tandem right now. Hmmmm...)
Quote from mastacoli71:
because everyone is short or because you think a large selloff will not occur in our lifetime?
Quote from tortoise:
No, not because everyone is short, although that certainly helps the Fed. No, I think when a large selloff occurs--and, yes, someday it will--that will be the last selloff ever permitted. Markets will be, essentially, legislated out of business. Moreover, the fact that such a massive selloff happened at all will mean that central banks have lost control of the situation, and we'll confront a certain degree of economic anarchy.
What's happening now is without precedent, because the situation is without precedent. So I say try to enjoy these cosseted, manipulated markets for as long as they're around...perhaps two years, perhaps more. For when markets are finally allowed to act like markets, that will be the end of them. And the end of a lot of other things as well.
Quote from tortoise:
No, not because everyone is short, although that certainly helps the Fed. No, I think when a large selloff occurs--and, yes, someday it will--that will be the last selloff ever permitted. Markets will be, essentially, legislated out of business. Moreover, the fact that such a massive selloff happened at all will mean that central banks have lost control of the situation, and we'll confront a certain degree of economic anarchy.
What's happening now is without precedent, because the situation is without precedent. So I say try to enjoy these cosseted, manipulated markets for as long as they're around...perhaps two years, perhaps more. For when markets are finally allowed to act like markets, that will be the end of them. And the end of a lot of other things as well.