ES Journal - 2013

Quote from NoDoji:

The government IS big business. Our representatives work for publicly traded corporations.

I wouldn't equate govt and business. As you say, our representatives "work for", which is a different matter. Politicians depend on corporate money to get re-elected, and that money can be withdrawn at any time. On the other hand, politicians don't dare withdraw support from corporations for fear that that money will as a result be withdrawn. Definitely a one-way street.

Not unlike parents telling their children that they are free to do as they please. Up to a point.

What can be done about it is anybody's guess, but it's been this way for centuries, so I'd rather concern myself with other matters. I'm as much a fan of Frank Capra as anyone, but, unfortunately, reality is somewhat different.
 
Quote from dbphoenix:

I wouldn't equate govt and business.

I disagree. I think any bank that took TARP money has been nationalized. Are Chinese banks national? Russian Banks? These things happen during war times...
 
Still watching the square root of negative one resistance lines on various indexes... will need to move the goal posts on the short swing idea for ES. Stop was not hit this week but bulls did not give up.

Risk is fairly clearly defined but the interactions between the instruments being watched for an invalidation signal might make it hard to nail down an exact uncle point on ES (i.e. it will be dynamically determined).

Thanks.
 
Quote from RichardRimes:

Plz guys...I don't need my blood pressure to rise anymore...can you stick to TRADING on the ES and take this discussion to the proper forum..TIA

Yes, agree. Please don't get me going on big government. Gets my blood boiling.
 
Quote from pfranz:

If you use words like "by far" you may have already done enough analysis, at least at an unconscious level.
Let me tell you my experience.I began with system trading because I thought I couldn't rely on my "impressions" for discretionary trading. I built my system, tested over thousands and thousands of trades on different markets,made sure it wasn't curve-fitted,then began trading it.
I made money at first,but then I began to lose and had to stop. After years I realized what happened: it was end of 2002 and my system relied on volatility. At that time volatility disappeared for good (till 2008) for the first time after many years.
I could have tested even more,I would have always found that my system was good.
What I learned was that there is always a discretionary component even in system trading,basically to understand what you mentioned, that is, when your edge (whatever it be) disappears.
Since then I traded looking at patterns or characteristics for a small period of time;we could say, without testing them. You would say that wasn't serious and was very risky.
Guess what? I don't recall a single time I lost money because I didn't enough testing.
I did lost money, but that has always been because I became totally unreasonable, irrational, incredibly emotional and did exactly the opposite of what was clear (even to a novice) it had to be done. In other words, a total idiot.

In my experience of nearly 50 years, these are very important comments. I hope others will read them and understand.
 
Quote from RichardRimes:

Plz guys...I don't need my blood pressure to rise anymore...can you stick to TRADING on the ES and take this discussion to the proper forum..TIA
Yes, I agree. But nevertheless, some worthwhile, intelligent discussion from some experienced contributors.
 
Quote from piezoe:

Yes, I agree. But nevertheless, some worthwhile, intelligent discussion from some experienced contributors.

However it STILL belongs in another form...Unless tied directly to how the market esp ES is moving. When the government was shutdown it directly corrlated to the volatility that MOVED the markets....now its just.........................................discussion.

hey...at least throw up a chart we can look at!:D
 
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