ES Journal - 2012

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Quote from satchel:

1268.50 in over-night and sinking. Almost poetic.

who shorted 77.5 and posted it live? we are 10 pts down from the top. who is still short? Yeah I guess just me.

who posted this morning that they were short and that 1262 was the line to beat? That 1262 was the line that had to prove. That they were worried about 1262. who posted the 3 Higher Lows off 1262? Sure at the morning lows if I banked it all that was already the daily nut. But I didn't bank it all, what do you care. What do you care that I already know that I missed the buy at the bottom. Well I sure as hell didn't miss they sell from the top.

i am done here. There is ZERO camaraderie here - no traders supporting traders - imagine if people actually supported each other? Pretty disappointing, but hey it's been like that since 2003, why would I expect more?
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You were asked throughout the day what you were looking at for stops.

You were asked how or if you were scaling in.

You were asked several times for any clues as to what you were doing besides evasive bullshit (long here, short there).

You are not looking for comaraderie. You are looking for guru status and something to satisfy your ego. Posting P&L shots after ambiguous posts.

Really try and be honest and maybe you will not have to continually "take your ball and go home".

You are very sensitive my friend. :(
 
Quote from Glavez:

If someone is underwater -what's the point of "kicking" them when they are down at the moment? If they recover tomorrow - would that be a good trade? Maybe it's their style or a hangup, why trying to change them - just draw your own conclusions and move on.

That's my 2c since I'm just a lurker - carry on :) [/B]
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no one's kicking anyone here when he's down.. see no one kicks Ammo when he's down..

the only point is a little integrity.. if one wants to post his PNL make sure he posts on red days as well

cheers :D
 
I had a great run and then got slammed hard on Christmas week. Just wanted to say that nobody kicked me while I was down :)
I don't care to much about specifics on trades in exact real time. Its just nice to see what others are doing.

As for camaraderie, you can find it in more private settings among individuals you may meet here or wherever.

Ammo, lose some weight. :D

Edit: Slammed really really hard. One of those body slams where it feels like your heart and lungs have stopped functioning. Oh well, I'll learn one day.
 
Quote from satchel:

1268.50 in over-night and sinking. Almost poetic.

who shorted 77.5 and posted it live? we are 10 pts down from the top. who is still short? Yeah I guess just me.

who posted this morning that they were short and that 1262 was the line to beat? That 1262 was the line that had to prove. That they were worried about 1262. who posted the 3 Higher Lows off 1262? Sure at the morning lows if I banked it all that was already the daily nut. But I didn't bank it all, what do you care. What do you care that I already know that I missed the buy at the bottom. Well I sure as hell didn't miss the sell from the top.

i am done here. There is ZERO camaraderie here - no traders supporting traders - imagine if people actually supported each other? Pretty disappointing, but hey it's been like that since 2003, why would I expect more?
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Satchel, please continue posting. You have been on this site for 7 years now, and as you said yourself - you have a lot of back and forth talk. Trvl is a great guy just as you are. Its just that today - there was some not so pleasant exchanges between you two guys. Think like you and him are co-workers- you guys just didn't like the smell of the other one for a day. Not a good enough reason to leave your job or kill the other guy . Is it ? :)

Lets move on . tomorrow is a new day and let the peace prevail.

Trwl - my humble request - lets bygones be bygones. Both of you are great traders and great guys (more importantly).

Again, The thread benefits from both of your comments/observations and I hope it will be that way in future also. So, Satchel please keep posting. See you tomorrow!
 
Quote from fishing:

no one's kicking anyone here when he's down.. see no one kicks Ammo when he's down..

the only point is a little integrity.. if one wants to post his PNL make sure he posts on red days as well

cheers :D
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^^^a BIG this

No one was kicking satchel. However, satchel was also braggadocious about posting his p&l when others in the thread were obviously underwater. All i'm saying is if you post your winning p&l you should also post your losing p&l

all in all though I enjoy satchel's commentary...
 
Quote from HurricaneUS:

^^^a BIG this

No one was kicking satchel. However, satchel was also braggadocious about posting his p&l when others in the thread were obviously underwater. All i'm saying is if you post your winning p&l you should also post your losing p&l

all in all though I enjoy satchel's commentary...
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I am sure many on here do not post ALL their trades. I scalp many trades and there is no way to post those.

I try to post the one's that I am giving some room and a larger stop as a way to contribute. Some of those posted win or lose in real time, and those I do NOT post win and lose. I really try and keep each posted trade updated until closed.


Some big winners never get posted and some losers DO get posted. At the end of the day, my P&L is more important than my "ego" on a forum, but some go about that differently.

I never put satchel on "ignore" because his input is beneficial. Many others do NOT fall into that category and their posts are no longer seen. To put me on ignore, go to my profile and exercise that option. :)

Best of success!
 
Quote from satchel:

1268.50 in over-night and sinking. Almost poetic.

who shorted 77.5 and posted it live? we are 10 pts down from the top. who is still short? Yeah I guess just me.
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Still bragging about that short at 80+ ?
 
Quote from RXIS:

I had a great run and then got slammed hard on Christmas week. Just wanted to say that nobody kicked me while I was down :)
I don't care to much about specifics on trades in exact real time. Its just nice to see what others are doing.

As for camaraderie, you can find it in more private settings among individuals you may meet here or wherever.

Ammo, lose some weight. :D

Edit: Slammed really really hard. One of those body slams where it feels like your heart and lungs have stopped functioning. Oh well, I'll learn one day.
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It's not how hard you hit, it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.
 
Sold 1 @127800 and will another 128050

Stop ZB 141'16

Edit: As it 'quiet' up to a point, I will try to explain my trading of ES off ZB.

As you can see ZB popped nearly 3/4 point from the newsand the ES held firm up around 78/79.

I sold on a ZB trigger and the reason I have a second order in at 8050 is that no entry is perfect and generally when they buy bonds they seem to hold up the ES for anything btween 2 to 4 points and then back off.

I could even place another trade at 128200 but my concern is if the ES did the 'wrong' thing and drove higher. It happens,but not often.
 
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