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JPMorgan Chase- 10-Q comment on impact from potential Moody's downgrade
On February 15, 2012, Moody's announced that it had placed 17 banks and securities firms with global capital markets operations on review for possible downgrade, including JPMorgan Chase. As part of this announcement, the long-term ratings of the Firm and its major operating entities were placed on review for possible downgrade, while all of the Firm's short-term ratings were affirmed. If the Firm's senior long-term debt ratings were downgraded by one notch or two notches, the Firm believes its cost of funds would increase; however, the Firm's ability to fund itself would not be materially adversely impacted. JPMorgan Chase's unsecured debt does not contain requirements that would call for an acceleration of payments, maturities or changes in the structure of the existing debt, provide any limitations on future borrowings or require additional collateral, based on unfavorable changes in the Firm's credit ratings, financial ratios, earnings, or stock price.
 
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JPMorgan Chase- 10-Q comment on impact from potential Moody's downgrade
On February 15, 2012, Moody's announced that it had placed 17 banks and securities firms with global capital markets operations on review for possible downgrade, including JPMorgan Chase. As part of this announcement, the long-term ratings of the Firm and its major operating entities were placed on review for possible downgrade, while all of the Firm's short-term ratings were affirmed. If the Firm's senior long-term debt ratings were downgraded by one notch or two notches, the Firm believes its cost of funds would increase; however, the Firm's ability to fund itself would not be materially adversely impacted. JPMorgan Chase's unsecured debt does not contain requirements that would call for an acceleration of payments, maturities or changes in the structure of the existing debt, provide any limitations on future borrowings or require additional collateral, based on unfavorable changes in the Firm's credit ratings, financial ratios, earnings, or stock price.

No wait what's "10-Q"?
 
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No wait what's "10-Q"?

Looks like JPM jumped in ahead as they know the shit is going to hit the fan and they are right in the middle of it. They know Moody is going to be all over them ,so they have decided to "disclose" their knowledge up front as it will effect the way they go forward.

Smart move on their part. Takes the edge off them.:D
 
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Looks like JPM jumped in ahead as they know the shit is going to hit the fan and they are right in the middle of it. They know Moody is going to be all over them ,so they have decided to "disclose" their knowledge up front as it will effect the way they go forward.

Smart move on their part. Takes the edge off them.:D

$10bil off their market cap afterhours. Tomorrow should be a fun day of trading.

You should have listened to the conf call. That $2bil loss offset by $1bil gain is just quarter to date, could get worse or better. They simply do not know. I would guess they are going to unwind the trade so i doubt getting better is even possible.
 
As usual, mkt takes news in stride. The thing I don't get is if one bank traded this strategy you know they all have their fingers in the pot.

Offering 51.25, 59.75.
 
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As usual, mkt takes news in stride. The thing I don't get is if one bank traded this strategy you know they all have their fingers in the pot.

Offering 51.25, 59.75.

short 51.25, offering 54.75 and 59.75
 
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JPM is down 8% pre market, other banks not doing too hot either but ES is barely lower...

cause they got to get the masses long / short cover before they really bang it down. i had a hard time grasping this concept but finally starting to realize to accept it for what it is.
 
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