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Market Deception evades clear questions.
He is obviously Wind Blows
He is here for commercial purposes
He quotes Chen, another person besides himself (who now has 2 journals) who cannot stand putting their journal threads under Journals where they belong.
I doubt such because it seems to me he's making fun of you guys or having a good time at watching a few get pssst. Simply, if he does respond to your answers...he'll probably continue to be funny or sarcastic considering he is anonymous.
(he did respond to your first question via saying YES it's a joke)
It could also be Baron trying to drum up views.
Mark
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I doubt such because it seems to me he's making fun of you guys or having a good time at watching a few get pssst. Simply, if he does respond to your answers...he'll probably continue to be funny or sarcastic considering he is anonymous.
(he did respond to your first question via saying YES it's a joke)
It could also be Baron trying to drum up views.
Mark
Mark,
I did not try to be funny or sarcastic when I said this is kind of like a sad joke. What I said was my honest prediction. I did not insult or disrespect just because I am anonymous like they do.
The manners that some questions are asked are not respectful and as such I do not oblige myself to answer.
I would love to have respectful dialogue about this system. Perhaps later on, people will get involved in more positive critical opinions and discussions instead of this ongoing nonsense of a few.
But I should confess, you are right, I do have some fun laughing, thinking how they will react when they see a black and white proof that shows them how close minded they were.
Psychology of bashing
I do not have any formal training on psychology. But I have a habit of thinking about subjects and trying to figure out what the root cause is.
Here is my analysis of bashing, insulting and being disrespectful by some members in this forum.
I think the root is in two areas of human psychology:
1 - Reactive mind
2 - Shadow psychology
Reactive mind is part of mind that combined with analytical mind forms our responses. Analytical mind uses logic to evaluates circumstances. Reactive mind uses various elements of a circumstance regardless of their logical relations and forms a response. Animals only have reactive minds but human have both. An example of reactive mind is Pavlov's Dog. He fed the dogs while striking a bell. Later when he stroke the bell, saliva started to pour even though there was no food. To reactive mind the bell and the food are the same thing.
Shadow psychology is the dark side and less-spoken psychology of human, deeply rooted in subconscious. It has been inherited from our animal ancestors but it is suppressed in early childhood.
In extreme cases this psychology is responsible for some human treating others in horrible way and enjoy it. It surfaces when the limits are moved and there is no consequence. Some dictators are example of this psychology. Prison guards who torture their victims are other examples. In Abu Gharib prison, perfectly civilized people turned into monsters and even took pictures to be able to enjoy the memory.
My thought is that probably the bashers are victims of some sort of scam at some point. They have been hurt badly and have a severe scar. Their reactive minds takes over and their analytical mind is shut off when they hear "Signals". But they still would not talk to their neighbors or coworkers like they talk here, even if they blame them for something.
Here the shadow psychology kicks in. There is very little limitation and pretty much no consequences here in ET. So the deeply rooted and suppresses subconscious wakes up. Vicious, insulting, accusing, ridiculing and of course no logic.
I do not have any formal training on psychology. But I have a habit of thinking about subjects and trying to figure out what the root cause is.
Here is my analysis of bashing, insulting and being disrespectful by some members in this forum.
I think the root is in two areas of human psychology:
1 - Reactive mind
2 - Shadow psychology
Reactive mind is part of mind that combined with analytical mind forms our responses. Analytical mind uses logic to evaluates circumstances. Reactive mind uses various elements of a circumstance regardless of their logical relations and forms a response. Animals only have reactive minds but human have both. An example of reactive mind is Pavlov's Dog. He fed the dogs while striking a bell. Later when he stroke the bell, saliva started to pour even though there was no food. To reactive mind the bell and the food are the same thing.
Shadow psychology is the dark side and less-spoken psychology of human, deeply rooted in subconscious. It has been inherited from our animal ancestors but it is suppressed in early childhood.
In extreme cases this psychology is responsible for some human treating others in horrible way and enjoy it. It surfaces when the limits are moved and there is no consequence. Some dictators are example of this psychology. Prison guards who torture their victims are other examples. In Abu Gharib prison, perfectly civilized people turned into monsters and even took pictures to be able to enjoy the memory.
My thought is that probably the bashers are victims of some sort of scam at some point. They have been hurt badly and have a severe scar. Their reactive minds takes over and their analytical mind is shut off when they hear "Signals". But they still would not talk to their neighbors or coworkers like they talk here, even if they blame them for something.
Here the shadow psychology kicks in. There is very little limitation and pretty much no consequences here in ET. So the deeply rooted and suppresses subconscious wakes up. Vicious, insulting, accusing, ridiculing and of course no logic.
Since we're into definitons now... 
Definition of SCAM
1. A ploy by a shyster to raise money.
2., A fraudulent business scheme. To scam means to victimize: deprive of by deceit; "He swindled me out of my inheritance"; "She defrauded the customers who trusted her"; "the cashier gypped me when he gave me too little change"
3. A confidence trick, confidence game, or con for short (also known as a scam) is an attempt to intentionally mislead a person or persons (known as the mark) usually with the goal of financial or other gain. The confidence trickster, con man, scam artist or con artist often works with an accomplice called the shill, who tries to encourage the mark by pretending to believe the trickster.
So I'm wondering... is Winborn the con artist and MarketException the shill, or vice versa?
Definition of SCAM
1. A ploy by a shyster to raise money.
2., A fraudulent business scheme. To scam means to victimize: deprive of by deceit; "He swindled me out of my inheritance"; "She defrauded the customers who trusted her"; "the cashier gypped me when he gave me too little change"
3. A confidence trick, confidence game, or con for short (also known as a scam) is an attempt to intentionally mislead a person or persons (known as the mark) usually with the goal of financial or other gain. The confidence trickster, con man, scam artist or con artist often works with an accomplice called the shill, who tries to encourage the mark by pretending to believe the trickster.
So I'm wondering... is Winborn the con artist and MarketException the shill, or vice versa?
Quote from MarketException:
Signals for Monday 10/18/2010:
My signal # 2 was triggered at 9:50 bar. The entry at 1174.50 was at 9:55 bar, it reached the target of 1178 at 10:15 bar for 3.5 points of profit.
As usual I deduct 1 tick for possible future questionable fills.
The result:
Total # of trades: 3
Total win: 4 + 3.25 = 7.25
Win Rate: 100%
Profit factor: Infinity! and beyond....
Why is it so quiet here?
Any more insults?
Any more insults?
Dear debdeeps or BSAM,
What a civilized manner to ask a question. This is the most intelligent question that so far I have been asked here.
But really you did not have to go thru the trouble of creating a new id. I would have been even more impressed if you acknowledged your behavior and moved forward in a positive manner. We all make mistakes.
I will start to share some aspects of the engine behind my signals soon hopefully after I see a more positive atmosphere here.
I am curious if you came up with answers the following questions:
Quote from BSAM:
Uh, teacher, I have a suggestion...
Answer the questions!
1. This is a joke, right?
2. Are you Winborn?
3. Are you connected to Winborn in any way?
4. Do you trade real money?
5. If #4 is yes, how long have you been trading real money?
No rants. Just give short, concise answers.