Quote from Gayfly:
this thread is about those people who actually believe in a deity, and how they go about defending their misguided beliefs.
I think that the universe is proof of the universe. If it were not sufficiently orderly, would it not cease to exist, or at least cause us not to? I share your view about the orderliness and harmony. I just don't see why a god had anything to do with anything. However, if you would be willing to simply identify "god" with the universe and all its phenomena, then we may be in general agreement and are only bickering about semantics:Quote from loza:
To me nature and the universe is the "proof", but that's only me....Just because there is evidence of a boilogical evolution I still tend to see orderliness and harmony in most important things and not total chaos.....but to each its own....
Quote from Gabfly1:
I think that the universe is proof of the universe. If it were not sufficiently orderly, would it not cease to exist, or at least cause us not to? I share your view about the orderliness and harmony. I just don't see why a god had anything to do with anything. However, if you would be willing to simply identify "god" with the universe and all its phenomena, then we may be in general agreement and are only bickering about semantics:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pantheism
pan·the·ism   /ˈpænθiˌɪzəm/ Show Spelled
[pan-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA
ânoun
1. the doctrine that god is the transcendent reality of which the material universe and human beings are only manifestations: it involves a denial of God's personality and expresses a tendency to identify God and nature.
2. any religious belief or philosophical doctrine that identifies God with the universe.
Apparently we have another thinker who "knows" god exists because god hasn't behaved as a human would, nor has he exhibited any behavior whatsoever perceptible to humans. Such inferential logic.Quote from Trader666:
Apparently we have yet another fool who "thinks" God doesn't exist because God hasn't behaved as a human would.