Epicurus on God

This thread is about a quote from a philosopher, people and their ideas are hopefully flexible and open to new interpretation. Are you saying that in context of such a quote, one can only reply within its self-limiting mindset? This is an open forum! I am not here to convert or change people's opinion if they are hard set in the personal deity but often this is a logical and philosophical dead-end. Most people would question god and what kind of a god would allow this and that and they turn to atheism sort of a spiritual nihilism that is also to be avoided if possible. Sorry I do not wish to proselytize anyone only to open some new ideas and avoid dead end streets (such as atheism or dogmatic thinking).
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Interesting post. However, this thread is about those people who actually believe in a deity, and how they go about defending their misguided beliefs.
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Quote from loza:

This thread is about a quote, people and their ideas are hopefully flexible and open to new interpretation. I am not here to convert or change people's opinion if they are hard set in the personal deity but often this is a logical and philosophical dead-end. Most people would question god and what kind of a god would allow this and that and they turn to atheism sort of a spiritual nihilism that is also to be avoided if possible. Sorry I do not wish to proselytize anyone only to open some new ideas and avoid dead end streets (such as atheism).
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Where you see atheism as a dead end street, I see it as liberating. You wrote in your previous post that heaven and hell are human constructs. Until proven otherwise, so is god. However, I remain flexible and open minded subject to any new evidence that may present itself.
 
When people put ideas and things and bestow it upon g-d, even by NAMING it, we do blasphemy of a sort. The Hindus and even the Jews would not allow g-d to be named as such we limit its scope and understanding. That is true transcendental thinking albeit it is a little dogmatic, considering they stoned anyone who uttered the name of god, this is the same as atheist demanding a proof. Of course there is no proof, you believe what makes sense to you. I expect no more, no less....
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Where you see atheism as a dead end street, I see it as liberating. You wrote in your previous post that heaven and hell are human constructs. Until proven otherwise, so is god.
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Meanwhile, you "know" god exists even though you admit you have no idea how he would behave. Nor do you have any evidence to suggest he does behave in any way whatsoever because he apparently goes about his business "almost" as if he wasn't there. (Those pesky deities can be quite stealthy, eh?) Therefore, by default, you cannot perceive him with any of your "god-given" senses. (Neither imagination nor wishful thinking is a sense.) To summarize, you cannot perceive him and you cannot understand him. And yet you "know" he's there. You "believe." Why? Just because. Quite the "thinker," aren't you?
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beautifully done gabfly

lol it's a pleasure to watch you "work" :p
 
Quote from loza:

...Of course there is no proof, you believe what makes sense to you...
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Although we may all be given to it to some extent or another, I prefer not to fill an absence of proof with wild imagination and abandon. By all reasonable and objective accounts, there is a more robust argument for evolution and natural selection than there is for an intelligent designer. There is no credible evidence to suggest that a god of any construct exists outside of the imagination.
 
To me nature and the universe is the "proof", but that's only me....Just because there is evidence of a boilogical evolution I still tend to see orderliness and harmony in most important things and not total chaos.....but to each its own....
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Although we may all be given to it to some extent or another, I prefer not to fill an absence of proof with wild imagination and abandon. By all reasonable and objective accounts, there is a more robust argument for evolution and natural selection than there is for an intelligent designer. There is no credible evidence to suggest that a god of any construct exists outside of the imagination.
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Apparently we have yet another fool who "thinks" God doesn't exist because God hasn't behaved as a human would.
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beautifully done gabfly

lol it's a pleasure to watch you "work" :p
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This from the one who accused someone of treason without even knowing what it meant :p
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I prefer not to fill an absence of proof with wild imagination and abandon.
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