Ensign Software - Gone to the DOGS

Quote from Shel M.:

I've used Ensign for several years now and agree with OPM8, no problems. Trading the emini indexes and upgrade every few days. Seems quite stable to me. $39.95/month, great drawing and charting, free IB feed and DTN historical data. Volume charts that work accurately. I'm happy, hope you are too.

Shel

Could this be Sheldon from Ensign Tech Support? How's the weather in Idaho?
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

That's amazing since 512 MB ram is the minimum recommended for running XP effectively. Good luck to you.

Seeing as how XP came out in 2001 I think I'll be all right. Thanks for the concern.

opm8
 
Quote from opm8:

Seeing as how XP came out in 2001 I think I'll be all right. Thanks for the concern.

opm8

That wasn't my point.
If you are watching a couple of Markets, you might get by as you do but for individuals that watch multiple markets/multiple chart increments in real time it won't work. Professional traders need robust tools and Ensign is anything but robust.

I used to leave Ensign up overnight so I wouldn't have to refresh all of my charts in the morning before I started to trade (20 different chart increments) but I would get a "Memory Violation Error" each morning because Ensign leaked RAM it didn't recycle it like normal charting software programs do. I know this is still a fact because I'm administrating an Ensign programmer right now create a program for MultiCharts. The refresh problem and the memory problem are both easy fixes but Ensign refuses to address them.

I began using Ensign in the mid 90's and was a developer for them. I used their product for 8 years before I progressed to a more stable and supported tool. I don't watch the markets for a hobby, I trade for a living and need a tool that supports that requirement. Ensign is not a tool I would ever recommend.
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

That wasn't my point.
If you are watching a couple of Markets, you might get by as you do but for individuals that watch multiple markets/multiple chart increments in real time it won't work. Professional traders need robust tools and Ensign is anything but robust.

I used to leave Ensign up overnight so I wouldn't have to refresh all of my charts in the morning before I started to trade (20 different chart increments) but I would get a "Memory Violation Error" each morning because Ensign leaked RAM it didn't recycle it like normal charting software programs do. I know this is still a fact because I'm administrating an Ensign programmer right now create a program for MultiCharts. The refresh problem and the memory problem are both easy fixes but Ensign refuses to address them.

I began using Ensign in the mid 90's and was a developer for them. I used their product for 8 years before I progressed to a more stable and supported tool. I don't watch the markets for a hobby, I trade for a living and need a tool that supports that requirement. Ensign is not a tool I would ever recommend.

ok fair enough. If Ensign didn't suit my needs I wouldn't use it. Everyone has their favorite charting program.
 
Quote from ButterMilk:

Ensign just up graded there system again today 020709. Refresh seem to be working correctly now. I'm holding my breath!!!

Upgraded to the 2/7/2008 version yesterday, so far so good. If I don't have any problems I'm not upgrading again for awhile.
 
Ensign is not a bad tool. It is pretty solid with the IB feed and offers some good tools. If you are a beginner in the intraday business, trading a contract or two and trade conservatively or look at markets longer term then, at $40/month, it's not a bad deal by far. Data and software vendors want to make lots of money and there are plenty of people out there who think that shelling out shedloads of moola will make them ace traders. Of course this is what these companies want you to believe. Isn't it about waiting for the market to come to you? If so, then Ensign is not a bad analytical tool for working out your entries. Granted, if you trade big volume then get something more upmarket but a business has to consider it's overheads and when starting out keeping them slim is a good way to relieve some of the ample stress involved. To be honest I'm not sure if any of this makes a difference because if your not in the pits and smelling the damn market then you're at the end of a line like everbody else. However, my caveat is that a good front end is essential and I see tick (okay it's aggregated) levels when placing an order. This in conjunction with Ensign I feel is okay but Ensign without this I'm not so sure. Together Button Trader and Ensign work for me as a cheap option trading a single contract for 2 months. Who knows down the line. But I know I'm not getting fleeced by the likes of esignal ($300/month equ. in Europe!). I don't consider myself a cult member for wanting a reasonable deal. I think the fanatics are more likely to be those who flit from one vendor to the next in search of a miracle.
 
Quote from SDticks:

I actually used CQG for a few years only because it was the only choice at a firm I traded for. I think CQG sucks. It has nothing to do with money, since I wasn't paying for it, it's just not as good as other options. Don't believe the hype. I actually prefer Esignal, which is what I use now.

Please don't tell me you're judging the seriousness of a trader by what charting platform they use. LOL. There are many reasons to use one over another. Charting is close to last on my list of importance anyways.

Anyways, back on topic, I have also been using Ensign as an add on to Esignal for a while now. There's a specfic chart that is easy to chart with Ensign that I've found is unavailable in other programs. Anyways, I only have that one Ensign chart up and have had no problems whatsoever. I haven't updated Ensign since last fall, and I'm guessing I shouldn't.


You must be the only person ever on ET to say CQG sucks. The fact you did say that is suspect.

I have heard they are to $$$$$$$ but never that the sucked, your a fraud.
 
Quote from TGM:

I used CQG for years and a few years ago started fooling around with the "cheap" feeds. I started with Tradestation and moved a small account with them. They sucked so I moved the Tradestation account to IB. I fell in love with IB for trading multiple instruments etc. So I looked and tried cheap software programs. I finally found Ensign and did not like it at first. Now, I love the damn thing because for a NON programming trader like me ---it is a joy to customize (once you get used to it).

I have seen Ensign/Ib data run right with CQG and TT for the last few years. A few months ago, Ensign started screwing things up. I did the latest upgrade this morning.......and it seems to be a hell of lot better.


FWIW, if TT had all the different alert tools and indicator builder tools as Ensign---it would be great. I have found that having Ensign/IB as a good solution .I use the newest TT with charts as an execution solution/backup-works well for me.

CQG has flawless data. Too bad we can not get it all in one package.

This mornings upgrade in Ensign seems to be a BIG improvement---at least for IB.

I have friends that moved their IB account feed from Ensign to NeoTicker and loved it. But I am not a programmer and with Neoticker (which can do anything) --you need to be able to program.


The problem with ensign and IB is if you have to refresh, it changes everything. What was about to be a MA cross over is now gone are has all reday happened.
 
Quote from Aaron Copland:

The problem with ensign and IB is if you have to refresh, it changes everything. What was about to be a MA cross over is now gone are has all reday happened.

You nailed that one.
 
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