End The Fed?..And then what

Quote from riaamaan:

We need to elect financially literate people to Washington and the current situation may be catalyst for that to occur.

That won't happen until there are (enough) financially literate voters.
 
Quote from Specterx:

1) Interest rates for everything set by the market.

I personally believe we need to move towards that. But it is going to be painful - housing values will get absolutely destroyed.
 
Quote from Random.Capital:

I personally believe we need to move towards that. But it is going to be painful - housing values will get absolutely destroyed.

how do you then control aggregate demand.

through fiscal policy. not now after the quantitative easing.
 
Quote from morganist:

how do you then control aggregate demand.

through fiscal policy.

It doesn't work. Fiscal policy cannot stop people from essentially being their own banks and creating (excess) money through credit.
 
Quote from Random.Capital:

It doesn't work. Fiscal policy cannot stop people from essentially being their own banks and creating (excess) money through credit.

to an extent i agree with you. but why use credit in the first place. there are alternatives to both aggregate demand control and to capital generation and saving other than credit thus no interest rate is required if they are used.

could these be the solution.
 
Quote from Random.Capital:

It doesn't work. Fiscal policy cannot stop people from essentially being their own banks and creating (excess) money through credit.

how do you then control aggregate demand.

through fiscal policy.



It doesn't work. Fiscal policy cannot stop people from essentially being their own banks and creating (excess) money through credit.


i was the one who said it would work in the first place. read the part after the full stop. it is not possible now anyway due to the government being full of debt. they cannot increase aggregate demand much further as they have overspent.
 
Quote from lrm21:



Also, Don't give me the gold standard as a reply.

Thats like saying we should give constitutional monarchy a try again.

That's hillarious. Yeah that response should be expected. LOL.
 
Quote from clacy:



Anyone that thinks the Congress wouldn't sieze control of monetary policy if the FED was abolished, hasn't paid much attention to politics in the past 30 years.

And that would also be our doom.
 
Quote from clacy:



I'm sure there are better alternatives, but that point is moot because they would be scrapped by congress,

There aren't alternatives to the Fed. An autonomous agency trained specifically for regulating both monetary and fiscal policy is required for both of these things to be effective. What the Fed learned in the last 70 years since the first depression was that you had to have policies that enforced the other. That is, you can control fiscal policy with monetary incentives and means, and you can control monetary policy through fiscal measures. Both of these have to be controlled by one entity independent of government bureaucracy. You can say it is a bureaucracy, but one devoid of politics. The main excuse I have for myself, is that I'm an economist, not a republican or democrat, and that would the very problem with anything other than having the Federal Reserve dictate interest rates and the money supply. What is and what should be are conflicting in most cases, and the debate would stagnate into total non-productive measures. Anyway, politics has to be left out, which is why the Fed should not be abolished, ever, and I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime.
 
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