EMP or Solar Event - 9 out of 10 americans will die

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jem

With weapons getting out of control and our borders being a mess...
I heard a guy on the radio the other night... who wrote a book of the subject.

He stated and EMP or a carrington size solar flare would kill 90 percent of americans.
I just looked it up...you can google this... this is real... the heritage foundation website quotes congressional reports..

here is one news story....

1. Unfortunately, as five different federal studies have documented, the U.S. electric power distribution system is extremely vulnerable, but not to cyberwarfare alone. It could also be seriously damaged, and key components destroyed outright, by everything from terrorism to localized or widespread electromagnetic pulse (EMP) effects.

EMP can devastate the transformers that are the backbone of the grid. Such pulses can be generated by short-range radio frequency weapons or over very long distances by a nuclear weapon detonated high above the Earth.
Worse yet, it is a certitude that, at some point in the not too distant future, intense solar flaring will cause geomagnetic disturbances that can cause some of the same deadly disruptions to our grid, and the critical infrastructure that relies upon it, as man-caused EMP.
ccording to the chairman of the Congressional EMP Threat Commission, Dr. William Graham, if the power goes out and stays out for as long as a year — something that is a distinct possibility should a far-reaching EMP event occur — nine out of 10 Americans will be dead.


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I also note there are summaries of the reports out there at think tanks on the web.

this is a very serious threat... now that the middle east is out of control.
 
Without wasting my time in the article, do you care to explain how an EMP would kill 90% of the United States? Are you trying to insinuate direct casualties or casualties as an eventuality due to a breakdown in the supply chain, etc..?
 
Tsing Tao said:
Without wasting my time in the article, do you care to explain how an EMP would kill 90% of the United States? Are you trying to insinuate direct casualties or casualties as an eventuality due to a breakdown in the supply chain, etc..?
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This is actually a very real possibility. I think 90% is a little high but it could easily result in the deaths of well over half the population.

We live in a world of just in time supply. Imagine the chaos if the power grid and almost everything with electronics was fried and didn't come back up in some areas for years (which is what it would take to replace large transformers). No food, no water, no communication, very minimal transportation. Cities (little/no land) would collapse first. Gangs would operate in survival mode with near impunity. Anyone who relied on modern medicine (diabetics, cancer patients, those needing dialysis, etc.) would die even if they somehow had access to food and water. Those with land would have to figure out how to live off of it with few modern conveniences and protect themselves in an environment of almost total anarchy. Etc., etc.

A coronal mass ejection like the Carrington Event http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859 would do it; so would a well planned and executed EMP attack.

Legislation to protect the grid has been floated for years but so far has gotten nowhere. Here's the latest: http://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...-give-feds-new-power-to-protect-electric-grid
 
Southwest without water.
Florida and New York without electricity.

Now I now why the survivalists live where they do.
 
Trader666 said:
This is actually a very real possibility. I think 90% is a little high but it could easily result in the deaths of well over half the population.

We live in a world of just in time supply. Imagine the chaos if the power grid and almost everything with electronics was fried and didn't come back up in some areas for years (which is what it would take to replace large transformers). No food, no water, no communication, very minimal transportation. Cities (little/no land) would collapse first. Gangs would operate in survival mode with near impunity. Anyone who relied on modern medicine (diabetics, cancer patients, those needing dialysis, etc.) would die even if they somehow had access to food and water. Those with land would have to figure out how to live off of it with few modern conveniences and protect themselves in an environment of almost total anarchy. Etc., etc.

A coronal mass ejection like the Carrington Event http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859 would do it; so would a well planned and executed EMP attack.

Legislation to protect the grid has been floated for years but so far has gotten nowhere. Here's the latest: http://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...-give-feds-new-power-to-protect-electric-grid
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Ok, so the argument is that people would die through secondary cause/effect scenarios. I thought Jem was insinuating that the EMP had some sort of direct affect to people (outside of those in flight, or driving, etc).
 
Tsing Tao said:
Ok, so the argument is that people would die through secondary cause/effect scenarios. I thought Jem was insinuating that the EMP had some sort of direct affect to people (outside of those in flight, or driving, etc).
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I read somewhere that the majority of households have 3-days worth of food on hand and half a tank of gas in their car. Sounds like a made-up statistic but it is sort of believable.

It is about the same for the grocery stores under normal conditions, 3 days worth. After a supply disruption I would think the stores would be emptied the first day or two.
 
Tsing Tao said:
Ok, so the argument is that people would die through secondary cause/effect scenarios. I thought Jem was insinuating that the EMP had some sort of direct affect to people (outside of those in flight, or driving, etc).
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Yes. Although there is potential (depending on the specifics of the CME or EMP) for planes that are in flight to lose their electronics. While any deaths from that would also be secondary effects, they'd be among the earliest.
 
Perhaps we are getting some traction or perhaps I am just more aware...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...y-destroyed-life-as-we-know-it-two-years-ago/

On July 23, 2012, the sun unleashed two massive clouds of plasma that barely missed a catastrophic encounter with the Earth’s atmosphere. These plasma clouds, known as coronal mass ejections (CMEs), comprised a solar storm thought to be the most powerful in at least 150 years.
“If it had hit, we would still be picking up the pieces,” physicist Daniel Baker of the University of Colorado tells NASA.

more at link
 
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