Election Night 2022 Thread

[Tsing Tao]

Same for me. I was in and out in about 5 minutes. However, for many, especially in the South, it isn't so easy. I don't have beef with voter ID laws so long as the state doesn't put undue burden on one seeking to secure such state sponsored ID. But there is a lot going on the intent of which is to make voting more difficult. For example, why oppose voting by mail? There is no reason to think it is not a secure way to cast a ballot. Why must we have "election day" rather than an "election week" or even and election month? Why not have Saturday and Sunday polling open?

The GOP plan to disenfranchise is well documented and the GOP politicians won't deny it.

Southern U.S. states have closed 1,200 polling places in recent years: rights group | Reuters

Plans to close all but one polling place in a rural Georgia county reverberate through a battleground state | CNN Politics

Not everyone has the easy access to the ballot box as you and I.

Please show me how mailing a ballot is as secure as being checked in person with ID.

 

[Ricter]

A popular socialist once said it's not who votes, but who counts the votes who counts . Sounds good but insinuates that republican representatives aren't doing the same thing if not better . And don't forget all the soldiers who did their bit to uphold a right to vote.

Meanwhile, it was nifty to be able to download my ballot from a gov website to save me a trip back to home county. My ballot was mailed to me but I've not been back enough to receive it. To find it I just entered my vital info to the website and shazam, there it was. Then I was given option to mark it up with the mouse, before printing, or print first and mark with a pen. Then I signed a paper to be included with the ballot, and put into a plain envelope given by the librarians who sort of doubled as election personnel. They also gave out little "I voted" stickers like candy.

It all seems well and good but any skeptic with a criminal mind could find flaws with this, it being an invariably blue state with currently a blue sec of state, appointed by a blue gov.

For one, it appears that 100% of persons on active voter roles are sent ballots. Thus, potentially everyone is an absentee voter through the mail. Next, I didn't need ID to get my ballot, just some vitals that almost anyone could guess being just a little acquainted with me. I did sign a kind of cover letter, but it's not attached to the ballot. The drop box was hefty and secure, but no one watching the drops at the time I dropped. Later, at about 5 PM it appeared two election workers were getting ready to take a batch to a central counting facility. It also appeared there was one watcher purposely observing them.

So you can see how there could be multiple attack vectors in this state. It was comforting that the gov website supposedly does a cancellation of any prior existing ballot, once I move past a certain point in the online process. But still, it appears to me that criminal minds could find a way to keep this state ever-blue.

And yet, despite all this, deep dives conducted over and over have failed to find evidence of fraud. But carry on!

A popular socialist once said it's not who votes, but who counts the votes who counts . Sounds good but insinuates that republican representatives aren't doing the same thing if not better . And don't forget all the soldiers who did their bit to uphold a right to vote.

Meanwhile, it was nifty to be able to download my ballot from a gov website to save me a trip back to home county. My ballot was mailed to me but I've not been back enough to receive it. To find it I just entered my vital info to the website and shazam, there it was. Then I was given option to mark it up with the mouse, before printing, or print first and mark with a pen. Then I signed a paper to be included with the ballot, and put into a plain envelope given by the librarians who sort of doubled as election personnel. They also gave out little "I voted" stickers like candy.

It all seems well and good but any skeptic with a criminal mind could find flaws with this, it being an invariably blue state with currently a blue sec of state, appointed by a blue gov.

For one, it appears that 100% of persons on active voter roles are sent ballots. Thus, potentially everyone is an absentee voter through the mail. Next, I didn't need ID to get my ballot, just some vitals that almost anyone could guess being just a little acquainted with me. I did sign a kind of cover letter, but it's not attached to the ballot. The drop box was hefty and secure, but no one watching the drops at the time I dropped. Later, at about 5 PM it appeared two election workers were getting ready to take a batch to a central counting facility. It also appeared there was one watcher purposely observing them.

So you can see how there could be multiple attack vectors in this state. It was comforting that the gov website supposedly does a cancellation of any prior existing ballot, once I move past a certain point in the online process. But still, it appears to me that criminal minds could find a way to keep this state ever-blue.

It's unmanly to cry like this in public.

 

[Cuddles]

A popular socialist once said it's not who votes, but who counts the votes who counts . Sounds good but insinuates that republican representatives aren't doing the same thing if not better . And don't forget all the soldiers who did their bit to uphold a right to vote.

Meanwhile, it was nifty to be able to download my ballot from a gov website to save me a trip back to home county. My ballot was mailed to me but I've not been back enough to receive it. To find it I just entered my vital info to the website and shazam, there it was. Then I was given option to mark it up with the mouse, before printing, or print first and mark with a pen. Then I signed a paper to be included with the ballot, and put into a plain envelope given by the librarians who sort of doubled as election personnel. They also gave out little "I voted" stickers like candy.

It all seems well and good but any skeptic with a criminal mind could find flaws with this, it being an invariably blue state with currently a blue sec of state, appointed by a blue gov.

For one, it appears that 100% of persons on active voter roles are sent ballots. Thus, potentially everyone is an absentee voter through the mail. Next, I didn't need ID to get my ballot, just some vitals that almost anyone could guess being just a little acquainted with me. I did sign a kind of cover letter, but it's not attached to the ballot. The drop box was hefty and secure, but no one watching the drops at the time I dropped. Later, at about 5 PM it appeared two election workers were getting ready to take a batch to a central counting facility. It also appeared there was one watcher purposely observing them.

So you can see how there could be multiple attack vectors in this state. It was comforting that the gov website supposedly does a cancellation of any prior existing ballot, once I move past a certain point in the online process. But still, it appears to me that criminal minds could find a way to keep this state ever-blue.

tl;dr

 

[Cuddles]

Same for me. I was in and out in about 5 minutes. However, for many, especially in the South, it isn't so easy. I don't have beef with voter ID laws so long as the state doesn't put undue burden on one seeking to secure such state sponsored ID. But there is a lot going on the intent of which is to make voting more difficult. For example, why oppose voting by mail? There is no reason to think it is not a secure way to cast a ballot. Why must we have "election day" rather than an "election week" or even and election month? Why not have Saturday and Sunday polling open?

The GOP plan to disenfranchise is well documented and the GOP politicians won't deny it.

Southern U.S. states have closed 1,200 polling places in recent years: rights group | Reuters

Plans to close all but one polling place in a rural Georgia county reverberate through a battleground state | CNN Politics

Not everyone has the easy access to the ballot box as you and I.

But it is unaddressed, and I do wonder if many GOP voters really think that the voter suppression complaints simply boil down to an objection to an otherwise reasonable request that one shows ID when showing up to vote.

brb: let's cancel voting by mail/in person ID only and disenfranchise tens of thousands to prevent fraud in the single digits.

Voter ID will remain unreasonable for the same reason that voter roll purging every x months is. First is voter ID, then voter ID every 6 months, then voter ID every 6 months during working hours, then only on Wednesdays, then with only one teller across town making lines 8 hrs long, and on and on.

 

[Tsing Tao]

brb: let's cancel voting by mail/in person ID only and disenfranchise tens of thousands to prevent fraud in the single digits.

Voter ID will remain unreasonable for the same reason that voter roll purging every x months is. First is voter ID, then voter ID every 6 months, then voter ID every 6 months during working hours, then only on Wednesdays, then with only one teller across town making lines 8 hrs long, and on and on.

This is just silly.

 

[smallfil]

Democracy is under attack in America.
The dead are Voting for the brain dead.
And letting election thieves run their elections.
Banana Republic.

The dead have been voting in US elections for as long as I have been voting. Judicial Watch has sued the states to remove the dead from the voting rolls. Democrats of course, refused. That is thousands of votes that should not count. Even more nefarious is the practice of running the same ballots in tabulating machines over and over to gain ghost votes. So, one ballot can be counted 3 or 4 times and nobody is none the wiser. The only way you will catch it is when the total votes cast is way more than the total number of registered voters. RINOs have been ignoring this practice for a while now. When caught in the act, Democrat election workers claim it is an honest mistake.

 

[UsualName]

I respectfully disagree. The polarization in politics today is beyond anything we saw in 1994, or even as late as 2010. Democrats are going to vote blue even if its the end of the world, and caused directly by the left. Republicans are going to do likewise no matter how bad Rs are. The fight is over a few points of independents.

Disagree completely! Midterms swing. It’s the name of the game. Republicans should have netted around 30 seats in House and 5 or more in senate. As a matter of fact, even if everything cuts the republicans way with these close races Joe Biden will be regarded as the second or third best performing president during a midterm election.

 

[Tony Stark]

I respectfully disagree. The polarization in politics today is beyond anything we saw in 1994, or even as late as 2010. Democrats are going to vote blue even if its the end of the world, and caused directly by the left. Republicans are going to do likewise no matter how bad Rs are. The fight is over a few points of independents.

Dems had what I would consider a wave in 2018 winning 22 of 31 Senate races and 235 extremely gerrymandered House races.

Republicans did a damn good job placing the blame for inflation,high gas prices and crime on Democrats so imo they should have done a lot better than they did.

Im waiting for the numbers to come out on how democrats did so well avoiding the slaughter they should have had.I think having good progressive candidates helped.Personally I would have for voted for progressives like Fetterman,Kelly and Warnock if I lived in those states but will not be voting for a moderate like Biden or Harris.I think millions of progressiveness did/
will do the same.

Definitely looking for what the black voter turnout was and how big a factor abortion was.Polls showed abortion rights was the second biggest issue behind inflation.I want to know if Blacks and progressive coming out for progressives candidates or abortion or a mix of both is what stopped what should have been a democrat slaughter.

Personally I dont think there are many independents these days and black and progressive turnout decides elections.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Dems had what I would consider a wave in 2018 winning 22 of 31 Senate races and 235 extremely gerrymandered House races.

Republicans did a damn good job placing the blame for inflation,high gas prices and crime on Democrats so imo they should have done a lot better than they did.

Im waiting for the numbers to come out on how democrats did so well avoiding the slaughter they should have had.I think having good progressive candidates helped.Personally I would have for voted for progressives like Fetterman,Kelly and Warnock if I lived in those states but will not be voting for a moderate like Biden or Harris.I think millions of progressiveness did/
will do the same.

Definitely looking for what the black voter turnout was and how big a factor abortion was.Polls showed abortion rights was the second biggest issue behind inflation.I want to know if Blacks and progressive coming out for progressives candidates or abortion or a mix of both is what stopped what should have been a democrat slaughter.

Personally I dont think there are many independents these days and plack and progressive turnout decides elections.

GOP ran a mentally challenged football player and a whacked out doctor in two key races...kind of makes it hard to win when that is what you put up in those two races.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Disagree completely! Midterms swing. It’s the name of the game. Republicans should have netted around 30 seats in House and 5 or more in senate. As a matter of fact, even if everything cuts the republicans way with these close races Joe Biden will be regarded as the second or third best performing president during a midterm election.

And if the Republicans have the house and senate, that award Biden wins will get him a bus ticket for only a buck.