Election 2024 Foreplay

[Tony Stark]

And Biden is even lower LOL!!!

Its so funny reading your doom and gloom posts about Trump when his approval ratings were in the 40's but you are so optimistic about Biden with his approval ratings in the 30's

 

[Tony Stark]

So how can Biden do it with an approval rating of 33,not having The GOP EC edge you are mentioning in that post and the combination of West/Stein polling at 5%?

 

[Mercor]

Looks like you're wrong on this B1.

The U.S. Constitution does not bar the election of a president and a vice-president from the same home state.

B1 is a true Orginalist

Additionally, electors may not vote for presidential and vice-presidential candidates who both reside in the elector's state—at least one of them must be an inhabitant of another state.

Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

 

[Tony Stark]

Has faith in the polls when Biden is ahead,not so much when Biden is down.

 

[Tony Stark]

AA voters is the most important cohort for democrats in presidential elections. When AA voters have high turnout democrats get elected as presidents.

Right. If AA turnout and WM turnout are both high, then WW tend to be the deciding demographic. If AA turnout is not high then the dem candidate is SOL.

So does Biden get high AA turnout with a black voter approval rating 40 points lower than Obama and Clinton ? Or are you going to continue to minimize the black vote now that half of black voters hate Biden?

 

[Tony Stark]

So does Biden get high AA turnout with a black voter approval rating 40 points lower than Obama and Clinton ? Or are you going to continue to minimize the black vote now that half of black voters hate Biden?

BTW no need to answer.I just wanted to point out how your opinion of the same situation drastically changes depending on if you like or don't like a candidate.

 

[vanzandt]

More and more people are starting to float the idea of Nikki as Veep. Or at least they keep talking about it on the various networks. One of the folks on Bloomberg this AM said it would be a good choice.

If this starts gaining steam, and polls show the voters really like the idea (again, not the maga voters but the independents), there's no way Trump won't take notice and give it some serious thought.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

HUH????!!!!
Ok, I'm not stupid enough to argue that, because you obviously pulled it from somewhere... and I've been around here long enough to know when you say things like that... you already have 5 volumes of evidence to back it up.



Tree...Is this true? That does not sound like something the Founders would put in the Constitution.

I am not even remotely awake yet and would need two coffees before attempting it, but it is complicated. As I recall both pres and vice can be from different states but it is not desireable because it works against you in a tie breaking scenario. Electors must vote for two sets of candidates, pres and vice, of which one must not be from their home state so a Trump/Rubio scenario would keep Florida's electors from voting- not good given the number of electors and it being a swing state. But I believe it is constitutional for them both to run. Not strategically desireable though unless the party is confident of a lead big enough to offset the loss of a state. Not desireable for other reasons too.

Now that I think of it, it is sort of an important issue with the type of election coming up. With all this third party discussion which might sap off one or two or more electoral votes, and with all elections seemingly being close already these days, it will be very hard to get a majority in the electoral college. To take florida's votes out of play would be catastrophic for the pubs if Florida votes pub.

https://www.history.com/news/can-the-president-and-vice-president-be-from-the-same-state

 

[vanzandt]

I am not even remotely awake yet and would need two coffees before attempting it, but it is complicated. As I recall both pres and vice can be from different states but it is not desireable because it works against you in a tie breaking scenario. Electors must vote for two sets of candidates, pres and vice, of which one must not be from their home state so a Trump/Rubio scenario would keep Florida's electors from voting- not good given the number of electors and it being a swing state. But I believe it is constitutional for them both to run. Not strategically desireable though unless the party is confident of a lead big enough to offset the loss of a state. Not desireable for other reasons too.

https://www.history.com/news/can-the-president-and-vice-president-be-from-the-same-state

Ok but, and I have no idea, but the electors do their thing on (whatever day, last time it was Jan 6), that's when their "vote" matters right?. So say Trump/Rubio won... are you saying that since Fl's electors can only vote for one or the other, obviously it would be Trump, that the Dems, if they had the votes could mess up the Veep position? But that would only be one state. How's that work? You better go get some coffee. It does sound complicated. ---- Try black tea... more caffeine I think.

EDIT: I was typing and you added more.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Ok but, and I have no idea, but the electors do their thing on (whatever day, last time it was Jan 6), that's when their "vote" matters. So say Trump/Rubio won... are you saying that since Fl's electors can only vote for one or the other, obviously it would be trump, that the Dems, if they had the votes could mess up the Veep position? But that would only be one state. How's that work? You better go get some coffee. It does sound complicated. ---- Try black tea... more caffeine I think.

EDIT: I was typing and you added more.

I would have to read up later. But no, I am not saying that they can only vote for one or the other. I am saying they cannot vote. I believe the constitution (would need another coffee here) says they can meet to vote for both prez and vice as a set and that one member of the set must not be from their home state in order for them to vote for the set.