Election 2024 Foreplay

Buy1Sell2 said:
He has not revealed it but has said he has chosen.
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Naaaa.
He said it, but he hasn't chosen yet. He's too tactical of player to get locked in this early. That's not saying he hasn't had some sit-downs with folks, but Trump will always reserve the right to change his mind if the prevailing winds dictate such.
 
vanzandt said:
Naaaa.
He said it, but he hasn't chosen yet. He's too tactical of player to get locked in this early. That's not saying he hasn't had some sit-downs with folks, but Trump will always reserve the right to change his mind if the prevailing winds dictate such.
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All presidential candidates in recent history- both dem and pub are "users" when it comes to potential vp candidates. ie. they lay out or let others believe that there are several potential vp candidates out there so that they can rotate through them as they are campaigning in various states and get voters on board in the election. It has ever been thus. They also trickly them out so that they will get pre-vetted and so that they can run their flag up the flagpole and see who salutes and who groans.

So, if Florida is looking shaky, then no effort is put into denying that Byron Donalds will be/could be vp.

If you want SC's vote you let as many people as possible think Tim Scott is the man or possibly Nikki Haley.

To keep North Dakota's turnout peppy, you keep trickling out the idea that Doug Burgham is the man.

If South Dakota, Kristin Noem.

If New York, Elise Stefanik.

If Ohio, JD Vance. (bonus points for being in swing state, negatives for being white male).

And so it goes.


Realistically, Trump is giving great consideration to Elise Stafanik (note to binary thinkers, I did not just say that he will pick her) because Melania has previously said publicly back during one of the impeachments that she likes Elise and thinks that she "has a great future." So Trump will at least be considering her, per Melania.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
As I said the other day, Camp Biden is happy with itself for being out there in NH educating voters on how to do a write in vote. Problem is, they don't seem to understand what some of them may write in. Many will write in Gavin Newsom or the like, but I see other variations shaping up.

Bottom line, is that NH is a dinky little state that mostly does not bother anyone and minds its own business, but nevertheless, has its pride. And some of their pride is attached to their little first-in-the-nation primary status, which Biden ruthlessly killed for his own gain. Biden hates them anyway because they hate him, even before this year. In 2020 Biden finished 5th in NH just above Tom Steyer. womp....womp...womp. He's a prick. Even the dems don't like him, except some in southern NH which functions more as a suburb of Boston, and right on schedule, the Boston mayor is in NH campaigning for Biden. (the mayor being the same clowness who had the "minorities only" christmas party there in Boston).

As I said, other little write-in options are gathering speed (below).

NH Voters to Pressure Biden With ‘Cease-Fire’ Write-In on Primary Ballots

https://scheerpost.com/2024/01/20/n...-with-cease-fire-write-in-on-primary-ballots/
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Tree... and I'm dead serious about this, and I'll do the work to expound upon the various points... but I want to write out a list of indisputable FACTS... that I can draw upon at social functions to shut some of these dyed in the wool, "hate Trump at any and all cost", MSNBC parrots the f up. I get sick of hearing all this bs.

I mean I have said it here before, Trump is what he is, narcissistic, self centered, a buddy f'r, etc etc. He would fire me before lunch on day one if I worked for him. Or I'd quit. One or the other. But I get so sick of this non-stop bashing. His policies worked, and between him having to battle off a never ending media assault for four years, and then the onslaught of Covid in the last year and all that entailed, I think he did a great job. Is he a jerk? Yes. But did he run the country well? Yes.

All of this racial division, and a dozen other "divisions" ... there is ZERO doubt in my mind it is all fueled by the media. Linear television, social media, the legacy networks... I mean THEY are the ones that are fueling all this and ruining this country. Talk about Nazi-ism... these brain washing tactics have been around forever, and they are straight out of Goebbels's play book.

I just get fed up, and mad at myself actually, because I don't have a bulletized list of facts committed to my brain that I can use to put some of these people in their place, with the confidence of knowing that I am 100% correct.

I have the laptop letter, the Russian collusion, the Afghanistan withdrawal, Trump's "right to try", domestic energy policy, NATO members finally paying more of their fair share... but none of it works. It's ridiculous. I want to be able to silence a room with an oration that would make the best criminal defense attorneys smile and give me a thumbsup... because these people... family too... piss me off. All they know is what they hear on Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, or "The View". And trust me, I'm about a million miles from being some FOX acolyte. (Hannity is annoying and repeats things over and over and over... his take on the Goebbels strategy, Waters is a self-rightous egotistical know it all, Bret Baier is ok, and I respect Ingraham's opinions on some things, Gutfeld is witty af, but his calling is stand up comedy, not the news.)

These people can have their opinions, and they can hate Trump all they want, more power to them, but facts are facts, and I need a list where I can read it and say "case closed".
 
vanzandt said:
Tree... and I'm dead serious about this, and I'll do the work to expound upon the various points... but I want to write out a list of indisputable FACTS... that I can draw upon at social functions to shut some of these dyed in the wool, "hate Trump at any and all cost", MSNBC parrots the f up. I get sick of hearing all this bs.

I mean I have said it here before, Trump is what he is, narcissistic, self centered, a buddy f'r, etc etc. He would fire me before lunch on day one if I worked for him. Or I'd quit. One or the other. But I get so sick of this non-stop bashing. His policies worked, and between him having to battle off a never ending media assault for four years, and then the onslaught of Covid in the last year and all that entailed, I think he did a great job. Is he a jerk? Yes. But did he run the country well? Yes.

All of this racial division, and a dozen other "divisions" ... there is ZERO doubt in my mind it is all fueled by the media. Linear television, social media, the legacy networks... I mean THEY are the ones that are fueling all this and ruining this country. Talk about Nazi-ism... these brain washing tactics have been around forever, and they are straight out of Goebbels's play book.

I just get fed up, and mad at myself actually, because I don't have a bulletized list of facts committed to my brain that I can use to put some of these people in their place, with the confidence of knowing that I am 100% correct.

I have the laptop letter, the Russian collusion, the Afghanistan withdrawal, Trump's "right to try", domestic energy policy, NATO members finally paying more of their fair share... but none of it works. It's ridiculous. I want to be able to silence a room with an oration that would make the best criminal defense attorneys smile and give me a thumbsup... because these people... family too... piss me off. All they know is what they hear on Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, or "The View". And trust me, I'm about a million miles from being some FOX acolyte. (Hannity is annoying and repeats things over and over and over... his take on the Goebbels strategy, Waters is a self-rightous egotistical know it all, Bret Baier is ok, and I respect Ingraham's opinions on some things, Gutfeld is witty af, but his calling is stand up comedy, not the news.)

These people can have their opinions, and they can hate Trump all they want, more power to them, but facts are facts, and I need a list where I can read it and say "case closed".
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One thing also to point out when they are claiming that Hitler is a Nazi--------It was Albert Speer et al that used slave labor to further the Nazi cause. The Democrats have the border open in order, as the say, to do work that Americans will not do. Trump wanted the border shut. Who is more Naziesque?
 
Buy1Sell2 said:
One thing also to point out when they are claiming that Hitler is a Nazi--------It was Albert Speer et al that used slave labor to further the Nazi cause. The Democrats have the border open in order, as the say, to do work that Americans will not do. Trump wanted the border shut. Who is more Naziesque?
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:banghead:

i'm pretty sure - you already ARE in the nuthouse.
 
Buy1Sell2 said:
The Democrats have the border open in order, as the say, to do work that Americans will not do. Trump wanted the border shut. Who is more Naziesque?
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Yes B1, but this is an opinion and not a fact. One that which if I used in a setting such as I described above, would instantly lead to a side-tracked litany of bs careening down a rabbit hole of useless effectiveness.

Now, assigning year by year #'s provided by Customs and Boarder patrol on both processed and estimated got-aways... that is certainly an indisputable fact. And I will gather those figures.
 
vanzandt said:
Yes B1, but this is an opinion and not a fact. One that which if I used in a setting such as I described above, would instantly lead to a side-tracked litany of bs careening down a rabbit hole of useless effectiveness.

Now, assigning year by year #'s provided by Customs and Boarder patrol on both processed and estimated got-aways... that is certainly an indisputable fact. And I will gather those figures.
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Also... a specific breakdown on the #'s of Russians, Chinese, Yemenese, and various other nationalities that aren't from S. America and are in fact originating in countries that have a wide swath of "hate America" folks in their indigenous populations, of which the likelihood of at least a portion of them are not coming here for a better life, and instead are coming here with nefarious intentions.

And these are the ones that have the money behind them to buy a first-class ticket on the Mexican Cartel express. IE... placing an operative in our country with zero chance of getting caught. There is zero doubt in my mind the Cartels have "premium seats" available for the right price.
 
vanzandt said:
Yes B1, but this is an opinion and not a fact. One that which if I used in a setting such as I described above, would instantly lead to a side-tracked litany of bs careening down a rabbit hole of useless effectiveness.

Now, assigning year by year #'s provided by Customs and Boarder patrol on both processed and estimated got-aways... that is certainly an indisputable fact. And I will gather those figures.
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Just showing that the Democrats are closer to Nazis than Trump will ever be. --And with the attempt to take away Americans right to vote for or against someone, they are closer to dictatorial, just like with The Kung Flu restrictions. The Democrats are projectionists.
 
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