Election 2024 Foreplay

[UsualName]

Ya know back in the day, when the Gypsies, Italians, Irish all came over via Ellis Island... if you had ever been in prison, you weren't allowed in. You weren't even allowed on the boat leaving Europe. That's a fact. A lot snuck in through Canada because of that.
Just sayin' Ocho.

That’s nonsense. One of my great-grandfathers came to America as a merchant marine and decided to just stay. No Ellis Island, visa, nothing. Then he served in WWII, went to Italy, where he was from, and found his brother - who later came to America with no papers, visa, or anything.

And back in those days there was virtually no border security with Mexico or Canada.

 

[vanzandt]

That’s nonsense. One of my great-grandfathers came to America as a merchant marine and decided to just stay. No Ellis Island, visa, nothing. Then he served in WWII, went to Italy, where he was from, and found his brother - who later came to America with no papers, visa, or anything.

And back in those days there was virtually no border security with Mexico or Canada.

Yeah well, look it up.

 

[UsualName]

Yeah well, look it up.

We don’t allow felons to immigrate today either. My point is that there is this psychosis spreading that immigration was orderly and the borders were secure back in the day but that’s a total misconception. There is a reason why Texas is 40% Hispanic.

 

[Tony Stark]

I would accept her over dump and Sliden

Even though she'd be a bigger tool for wall street,big oil,corporations,the 1%,military industrial complex etc than Bush 2 was I would too.

Shows how fucked up this nation and its presidential candidates are when Nikki Haley is the best outcome

 

[gwb-trading]

Seems like Trump has regularly called for other candidates to be disqualified or removed from the ballot -- but whines when he is removed from the ballot. LOL

https://twitter.com/x/status/694964856609439745

 

[Frederick Foresight]

 

[Tony Stark]

"Trump can win with like a 46% approval rating but a democrat can’t without 50%."-UsualName

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I saw Nikki Haley surging in a recent poll and finger Vivek tanking hard.....

Nikki could gain some momentum and present an interesting challenge. would stick it to Kamala if Nikki became first female and woman of color president haha.

I would accept her over dump and Sliden

I see a lot of loose talk these days about her being Trump's VP.

That dog ain't gonna hunt though. Their "relationship" has run its course, shall we say.

She will be Joe Manchin's VP before she will be Trump's.

 

[Tony Stark]

2024 circumstances are nearly identical to 2020 with the candidates reversed,but Usualname was singing a different tune when Trump had the horrendous poll numbers.

"Currently, Trump has the lowest approval rating and highest disapproval rating in history. Joe Biden is beating Trump in every poll and by larger margins than Clinton ever had. He barely won last time by 80,000 votes.

This is not a rhetorical question, how can he win?"-UsualName

 

[Tony Stark]

"Currently, Trump has the lowest approval rating and highest disapproval rating in history. Joe Biden is beating Trump in every poll and by larger margins than Clinton ever had. He barely won last time by 80,000 votes.

This is not a rhetorical question, how can he win?"-UsualName

2024 is even worst for Biden than 2020 was for Trump as he has the 3-5 point EC disadvantage and 2 progressive candidates polling around 5%( The Green Party candidate was polling less than 1% in 2020) and most polls that includes RFK increases Trump lead by 2-5 points.


West/Stein,The EC and RFK puts Biden down around 10-15 points from the start.