Election 2024 Foreplay

[Tony Stark]

Then for all intents and purposes they voted for Trump. Because they will have contributed to that very outcome.

Thats the reality The Democrat Party knows from 2000 and 2016.They know blacks and progressives will not vote for conservative democrats,which is why Biden promised nearly everything Bernie Sanders promised in 2020 to get elected.

I /we aren't voting for Trump.For millions of us though The Democrat Party seeing they can win presidential elections governing as right wing as Biden is worse than Trump winning a 2nd term.Millions of us do want Trump/the republican to beat Biden,the only reason we aren't voting Trump is because we want the progressive candidates to get as many votes as possible.To progressives a democrat like Biden is just as bad as republicans.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

To progressives a democrat like Biden is just as bad as republicans.

Just remember you said that.

 

[Tony Stark]

Just remember you said that.

Of course.Us progressives have been living it the last 3 years.Unlike Biden at least Trump is honest about being our enemy,while Biden is our enemy but pretends to be our friend.Me and most my progressive and black political circle are actually looking forward to a 2nd Trump term so we don't have to think about Biden anymore.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Of course.Us progressives have been living it the last 3 years.Unlike Biden at least Trump is honest about being our enemy,while Biden is our enemy but pretends to be our friend.Me and most my progressive and black political circle are actually looking forward to a 2nd Trump term so we don't have to think about Biden anymore.

So rather than the lesser of two evils you would rather choose evil towards your group...trump cares very little about progressive policies and actually goes out of his way to tear them down. Biden just didnt follow through on some policies.

What is worse.... trump packing the SC with judges who have overturned progressive rights or biden allowing some extra oil drilling.....

 

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[Tony Stark]

What is worse.... trump packing the SC with judges who have overturned progressive rights or

A democrat that doesn't support changing that Supreme Court is just as bad as a republican who puts conservative judges on that court.

 

[Tony Stark]

So rather than the lesser of two evils you would rather choose evil towards your group...trump cares very little about progressive policies and actually goes out of his way to tear them down. Biden just didnt follow through on some policies.

Biden isn't the lessor of 2 evils,to progressives hes just as evil or more.

At least Trump paused student loans payments for years,before Biden restarted them and Biden was the one who stopped allowing student loans to be discharged in bankruptcy.At least Trump ended the Obamacare fine if you don't have insurance.At least Trump passed a justice reform bill,unlike Biden,who wrote the awful Clinton crime bill. Thats actually more than Biden has done for progressives.

While progs are not on the same page in regards to immigration many progs and especially blacks wants to put an end to all these illegals entering the country.Trump will certainly do better on that than Biden.

 

[Tony Stark]

I know why progressives and Blacks hate Biden but Im not sure why Hispanics do,but they do.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1742230401198813201

 

[El OchoCinco]

A democrat that doesn't support changing that Supreme Court is just as bad as a republican who puts conservative judges on that court.

You dont change the SC just because you dont like that the president who won an election got to choose a few justices.... what precedent do we set then that we simply change the government when the losing party gets its chance for revenge?

 

[Tony Stark]

You dont change the SC just because you dont like that the president who won an election got to choose a few justices.... what precedent do we set then that we simply change the government when the losing party gets its chance for revenge?

1.Its constitutional

2.Dems have won the popular vote in 7 of the last 9 elections but Cons control The SC 6-3.

3.Republicans stole a seat from Obama.

Under those circumstances the court should be changed to reflect the will of the people.If Dems put up progressive candidates the other side wouldn't win the presidency. Dems could go all the way and prevent republicans from ever having The SC and Senate again.

Until Dems are ready to do that progs are fine with republicans ruling because as we've seen with Roe and AA republicans will eventually get want they want with moderate democrats in office.