El Nino Watch
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This is the truth.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
Here's another.
Man has caused the levels to rise by 40%.
Here's another.
The earth is very rapidly warming and the rate is increasing with no pause at all.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
Here's another.
Man has caused the levels to rise by 40%.
Here's another.
The earth is very rapidly warming and the rate is increasing with no pause at all.
This seems to confirm what I heard on the radio today.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ca...drought-relief-new-kelvin-waves-cross-n210081
Last Chance for El Nino Drought Relief? New Kelvin Waves Cross Pacific
Look out, Ecuador: Two Kelvin waves are comin’ at ya. And those waves raise at least the hope of drought relief in parched California, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory says. Kelvin waves are areas of higher sea level indicating warmer than normal water. In an El Nino, the Pacific Ocean off South America warms, and resulting weather patterns can bring more rain to the western U.S. and elsewhere.
A series of Kelvin waves earlier in the year brought hope that an El Nino would take hold and ease the drought affecting California and the American Southwest. JPL said those waves tapered off, but two new waves were spotted in mid-September moving east across the central and eastern equatorial Pacific.
Those waves, seen in an image from the NASA/European Ocean Surface Topography Mission (OSTM)/Jason-2 satellite, are expected to arrive off Ecuador in late September and early October. But JPL climatologist Bill Patzert said that even if an El Nino does develop, it’s likely to be of only weak or moderate intensity. That might not produce enough rain to really help California, nearly all of which has been suffering through drought for several years.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ca...drought-relief-new-kelvin-waves-cross-n210081
Last Chance for El Nino Drought Relief? New Kelvin Waves Cross Pacific
Look out, Ecuador: Two Kelvin waves are comin’ at ya. And those waves raise at least the hope of drought relief in parched California, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory says. Kelvin waves are areas of higher sea level indicating warmer than normal water. In an El Nino, the Pacific Ocean off South America warms, and resulting weather patterns can bring more rain to the western U.S. and elsewhere.
A series of Kelvin waves earlier in the year brought hope that an El Nino would take hold and ease the drought affecting California and the American Southwest. JPL said those waves tapered off, but two new waves were spotted in mid-September moving east across the central and eastern equatorial Pacific.
Those waves, seen in an image from the NASA/European Ocean Surface Topography Mission (OSTM)/Jason-2 satellite, are expected to arrive off Ecuador in late September and early October. But JPL climatologist Bill Patzert said that even if an El Nino does develop, it’s likely to be of only weak or moderate intensity. That might not produce enough rain to really help California, nearly all of which has been suffering through drought for several years.
No, this is a lie. The hockey stick has been proven up down and sideways. You are lying and posting irrelevant bullshit again.
You are one fucked-up dude.
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You are one fucked-up dude.
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interesting.... from your link.
"Used to be, before the tsunami of money washed over Science, drowning much common sense, a scientific precept was that when a theory made rotten predictions, the theory was condemned. The coupled GCMs around which climatology revolve have been making rotten predictions for decades. Therefore, in the days or yore, we would have said there is something wrong with the models.
And that is still so for those traditionalists among us who cling to the old ways. We say the models stink, because why? Because the models stink: they do not make skillful predictions. You would have done better with persistence. To us old timers, that means something about the models is wrong.
What, exactly, is wrong, I haven’t a clear idea. Too many tunable parameters in the models to know with any certainty. Anyway, if we knew, we’d be able to fix or adjust. We don’t know, so we can’t.
But to young whippersnappers, and especially to their worshipful followers, model accuracy means nothing. What matters more than anything is how consonant the theory which drives the models is with their “lifestyles”—or with their livelihoods.
The theory has become more important than reality. This is so true that even attacks on the theory using reality are seen by believers as confirmation of the theory. “Why is he denying my theory? He must be evil. My theory is stronger than his hate.”
A secondary problem is the expansion of democracy. Yes. Oh, yes. I know you don’t believe it, but it’s true. Somehow we have developed the idea thateverything can be put to a vote. Why else do we see these bug-witted attempts to convince us of the theory’s truth because this-or-that percentage of scientists believe it? Why else would people take to the streets for “climate justice”, in hopes their mere numbers would sway?
With my fellow gloom-and-doomers and grinning curmudgeons, I see no way out of this. Comfort yourself with the thought that, except for God, nothing good lasts forever."
"Used to be, before the tsunami of money washed over Science, drowning much common sense, a scientific precept was that when a theory made rotten predictions, the theory was condemned. The coupled GCMs around which climatology revolve have been making rotten predictions for decades. Therefore, in the days or yore, we would have said there is something wrong with the models.
And that is still so for those traditionalists among us who cling to the old ways. We say the models stink, because why? Because the models stink: they do not make skillful predictions. You would have done better with persistence. To us old timers, that means something about the models is wrong.
What, exactly, is wrong, I haven’t a clear idea. Too many tunable parameters in the models to know with any certainty. Anyway, if we knew, we’d be able to fix or adjust. We don’t know, so we can’t.
But to young whippersnappers, and especially to their worshipful followers, model accuracy means nothing. What matters more than anything is how consonant the theory which drives the models is with their “lifestyles”—or with their livelihoods.
The theory has become more important than reality. This is so true that even attacks on the theory using reality are seen by believers as confirmation of the theory. “Why is he denying my theory? He must be evil. My theory is stronger than his hate.”
A secondary problem is the expansion of democracy. Yes. Oh, yes. I know you don’t believe it, but it’s true. Somehow we have developed the idea thateverything can be put to a vote. Why else do we see these bug-witted attempts to convince us of the theory’s truth because this-or-that percentage of scientists believe it? Why else would people take to the streets for “climate justice”, in hopes their mere numbers would sway?
With my fellow gloom-and-doomers and grinning curmudgeons, I see no way out of this. Comfort yourself with the thought that, except for God, nothing good lasts forever."