Egyptians want freedom!!!!!!!! To rape?

[phenomena]

Wow optional, you seem hypersensitive to rape these days, bringing it up an awful lot. Indeed you seem to be on a bit of a rape tangent... Did your abrupt 6 month "vacation" entail some painful experiences?? Hmmm, seems like maybe you were running your mouth and spewing your sh!t to the wrong person and they came and shoved some of that "tolerance" right up your @^$, or maybe they shoved in your mouth so you'd shut the hell up... LOL!!!

Hmm, looks like wikipedia said so... Guess that settles it then... Looks like diversity detective optional saved the day again... Figured out that the whole institution of marriage is actually a widespread male conspiracy as a means of legitimizing rape!!! Who knew???

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Personal agenda on your part to make up lies?

Sure, why not? It is not a new practice here at ET for people to make up lies about another member based on their personal political agendas...

Spousal rape is a very old practice among married men. Most of the men were considered normal and lawful in their day, many even today are still considered normal by misogynists who view women, even women they have married as objects of spousal rape...not to mention men who rape hookers, even after paying for it.

"Historically, many cultures have had a concept of spouses' conjugal rights [8] to sexual intercourse with each other. This can be seen in Common law, in force in North America and the British Commonwealth, where the very concept of marital rape was treated as an impossibility."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spousal_rape

The only thing that seems repeatedly to thicken around here are the lies and distortion of folks with a personal agenda...or just plain stupidity.

Am I calling you a liar or just plain stupid?

Take your choice, whichever or both fit you the best...mox nix.

 

[Shagi]

Under certain conditions all races are capable of rape and crimes against humanity.

.....a huge proportion of so called African Americans are actually mixed race and descend from African women raped in thousands by white men during the slavery era

.......in the Congo its rape capital of the world

........ a lot of Chinese women were raped by Imperial Japanese soldiers

......... Ghengis Khan caused much suffering to the women of lands he ruled

I could go on but I think you get the point.

 

[Trader7793]

I wonder if any of her attackers were some of those rapist and murders who were recently released from Egyptian jails?

 

[Trader7793]

"In Tahrir Square, the site of 18 days of rebellion that ousted Mubarak, women were from disparate groups, veiled and not, Christian and Muslim, Westernized and traditional. They were as outspoken as men, leading chants and banging iron rods on power poles to sound the alert of approaching pro-regime marchers. It was remarkable in a country where until 2000 a wife couldn’t leave the country without her husband’s permission and until 1999 a rapist could avoid prison by marrying his victim."

That was in a story on bloomberg this morning. Good grief based on the rest of that story, the Egyptian people still have a long way to go.

 

[Shagi]

Quote from Trader7793:

I wonder if any of her attackers were some of those rapist and murders who were recently released from Egyptian jails?

That doesn't matter. This is a direct result of PC brigade ie. a woman can do any job a man does. Nonsense.

A woman has no place in a combat situation because if captured, 99% the end result is rape. Even the American military recognises this fact.

Some jobs are meant for men only - like employing a woman firefighter when life or death will one day depend on raw power carrying someone on shoulders to safety.

Im not saying she asked for it but better judgement should have been applied just like in any situation.

 

[phenomena]

You are attacking a straw man. The point isn't about individual men and women, it's about group averages. Sure I can take one example of an individual of any group to demonstrate any quality I desire. I can cherry pick some instance of group behavior in any given group to demonstrate capacity for whatever I chose. However, cherry picking incidents and individual men and women aren't what the point is about. The point is about group averages in terms of social outcomes. Any cherry picked example doesn't counter that information.

Quote from Shagi:

Under certain conditions all races are capable of rape and crimes against humanity.

.....a huge proportion of so called African Americans are actually mixed race and descend from African women raped in thousands by white men during the slavery era

.......in the Congo its rape capital of the world

........ a lot of Chinese women were raped by Imperial Japanese soldiers

......... Ghengis Khan caused much suffering to the women of lands he ruled

I could go on but I think you get the point.

 

[Shagi]

Quote from phenomena:

The point is about group averages in terms of social outcomes. Any cherry picked example doesn't counter that information.

You are missing my point - I said given certain conditions all humans are capable of same cruelty.

Those examples I have given are under those conditions - so its not cherry picked. Never think that a ceratin lifestyle is civilised - yeh change the underlying conditions you will surprise yourself of what you are capable of.

 

[phenomena]

You are cherry picking examples which suit your assertion. They are not relevant. We're talking about group averages, not cherry picked variance...

Quote from Shagi:

You are missing my point - I said given certain conditions all humans are capable of same cruelty.

Those examples I have given are under those conditions - so its not cherry picked. Never think that a ceratin lifestyle is civilised - yeh change the underlying conditions you will surprise yourself of what you are capable of.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Shagi:

........ a lot of Chinese women were raped by Imperial Japanese soldiers...

An estimated 200,000 actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women

Then of course there were an estimated 100,000 German woman raped by soviet soldiers in Berlin alone during the last days of WWII.

 

[Shagi]

Quote from phenomena:

You are cherry picking examples which suit your assertion. They are not relevant. We're talking about group averages, not cherry picked variance...

But if you are talking about statistics then don't just rely on recent data or whats reported on TV.

Why don't you present some evidence showing which race is the most murderous/raped the most going back in history as far as possible - only then can you talk about group averages.

I have given examples to show that all races are capable of same crimes given certain conditions and I really don't think the group averages are that much different.