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Quote from mmccormac:

This would lower the cost not increase it. The IRD would narrow.
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You pay interest on the currency you 'borrow' and get paid on the one you 'buy'. If your borrowing Yen to buy into another, you wont get paid as much (or will pay more depending)...
Is this logic not correct?
 
Quote from benajnim:

You pay interest on the currency you 'borrow' and get paid on the one you 'buy'. If your borrowing Yen to buy into another, you wont get paid as much (or will pay more depending)...
Is this logic not correct?
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IRD (Interest Rate Differencial). So if our rates are at 5.75% and the Yen is at .25% their is a difference of 5.5%. In this instance if you go short the USD/JPY you are selling the USD and buying the Yen (Thus you are holding a lower paying currency and selling the higher- This is where the cost appears). If the Yen raises their rates to say .50% then the IRD would narrow and thus the cost to short the USD/JPY pair.


EDIT: This is why IFFFF EFX/MBT was trying to lead the IRD change the cost would go down and not up. All they were doing is screwing everyone a little more on the Rollover/Swap cost. This change had nothing to do with interest rate change.
 
Quote from mmccormac:

IRD (Interest Rate Differencial). So if our rates are at 5.75% and the Yen is at .25% their is a difference of 5.5%. In this instance if you go short the USD/JPY you are selling the USD and buying the Yen (Thus you are holding a lower paying currency and selling the higher- This is where the cost appears). If the Yen raises their rates to say .50% then the IRD would narrow and thus the cost to short the USD/JPY pair.


EDIT: This is why IFFFF EFX/MBT was trying to lead the IRD change the cost would go down and not up. All they were doing is screwing everyone a little more on the Rollover/Swap cost. This change had nothing to do with interest rate change.
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Thus the cost to short the pair, and thus the payout of you were long the pair?

I think we're discussing the same perspective :D
 
Quote from MBT-Steve:

Benajnim,

Your inquiry is very welcomed. The ECN technology (3D Forex) is a separate company and joint venture that was developed in part by the principals of MBT. However it is an autonomously run company and of which MBT is a customer. You will see in the near future that the location etc will be completely different and it will operate with an entirely separate staff. The point in all of this is that it is an ECN/Direct Access brokerage for Forex. All the routing that I have previously explained is still the same.

Regards,

Steve
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Can you tell us how often (if ever) a non trading client of yours (e.g. bank) accepts your customer's limit orders within the spread? Do they even watch them? Or does the 3d forex platform only tend fill these limit orders (assuming another trader doesn't take it) when they match the quoted bid/offer by said banks? Thanks.
 
Quote from benajnim:

Thus the cost to short the pair, and thus the payout of you were long the pair?

I think we're discussing the same perspective :D
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Oh I see. You're talking about the payout for going long. Well if EFX/MBT is in the practice of making the trading enviroment worse for the investor/trader on a guess (Won't see any banks screwing their clients on IRD prior to the rate change) then that's very scary. On the flip side you will never see them make the premium payout higher on a guess that a country is going to lower/raise their rates.

Bottom line: Their Rollover/Swap/IRD policy is total crap for anyone that holds a position past 5pm ET. The only thing to be done that MAY be ok is the strategy I mentioned earlier about using 2 brokers to take advantage of their IRD on a few pairs.
 
Quote from mmccormac:

Oh I see. You're talking about the payout for going long. Well if EFX/MBT is in the practice of making the trading enviroment worse for the investor/trader on a guess (Won't see any banks screwing their clients on IRD prior to the rate change) then that's very scary. On the flip side you will never see them make the premium payout higher on a guess that a country is going to lower/raise their rates.

Bottom line: Their Rollover/Swap/IRD policy is total crap for anyone that holds a position past 5pm ET. The only thing to be done that MAY be ok is the strategy I mentioned earlier about using 2 brokers to take advantage of their IRD on a few pairs.
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It was actually with Oanda that I noticed the change in rates.
 
benajnim

Thanks for the list.

I noticed a screenshot on this board think it was from IB. It looked like a half tick EUR/USD but EUR/GBP was 1 full tick -bit strange.

Are you familiar with IB is their EUR/USD usually 1/2 tick wide
 
Quote from benajnim:

It was actually with Oanda that I noticed the change in rates.
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Oanda's payouts are 3x what they are at EFX/MBT, plus they pay daily interest on the balance of your account. Ok let's end this conversation it's going nowhere. Good Luck!


I've said it before but:

Bottom line: The EFX/MBT Rollover/Swap/IRD policy is a total ripoff for anyone that holds a position past 5pm ET. The only thing to be done that MAY be ok is the strategy I mentioned earlier about using 2 brokers to take advantage of their IRD on a few pairs.
 
Quote from JGtrader22:

benajnim

Thanks for the list.

I noticed a screenshot on this board think it was from IB. It looked like a half tick EUR/USD but EUR/GBP was 1 full tick -bit strange.

Are you familiar with IB is their EUR/USD usually 1/2 tick wide
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I don't know. You could try their demo system. Market data might not be accurate, but it would probably give you an idea what the spreads are like.
 
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