Edwards charges $55,000 to speak to UC Davis students about poverty

LT701 · May 22, 2007

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I agree with LT701 in this immigration debate, but you are making some very valid points. The question is how to accommodate people from mexico or elsewhere who want to work and are needed with the need to preserve our country's sovereignty, laws and culture. The current situation is intolerable, but granting amnesty to people just because they managed to get across the border is not the solution either.

AAA, you're a reasonable guy

below, is a link to the numbersusa 'gumballs' 14 minute video, perhaps the most intelligent immigration presentation ever

it was made a few years ago, and time have proven, if you look closely at his charts, that he *understated* his case

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=numbersusa&hl=en

LarryS · May 22, 2007

Quote from LT701:

then the government should be placing those who wont work in those 'unfilled jobs', or lose their welfare

"Thankfully we have immigrants that are willing to work hard and pay taxes to finance those people."

they're not even fully paying for themselves

really are you that stupid, or are you dishonest?

Not sure why you're so angry LT701 - both of you have decent points..it is not a black or white issue but very, very grey. No, not everyone shouldbe given amnesty. There are plenty that deserve it and don't get it and vice versa. The again, who said life was fair? So, the best thing to do is fend for yourself and make sure you're not one of the guys fighting for a low paying job...I know I'm not. And if I don't like it here anymore, I can always leave an move somewhere else.

LT701 · May 22, 2007

Quote from LarryS:

Not sure why you're so angry LT701 - both of you have decent points..it is not a black or white issue but very, very grey. No, not everyone shouldbe given amnesty. There are plenty that deserve it and don't get it and vice versa. The again, who said life was fair? So, the best thing to do is fend for yourself and make sure you're not one of the guys fighting for a low paying job...I know I'm not. And if I don't like it here anymore, I can always leave an move somewhere else.

i'm angry because i believe this 2.3 trillion dollar *labor subsidy* could be the nail in the coffin for longer term national bankruptcy - a situation that would have severe, far reaching and unpredictable negative reprecussions for nearly everyone

" And if I don't like it here anymore. I can always leave an move somewhere else."

is that a satisfactory position, 'we're undoing the rule of law, possibly bankrupting the country and if you dont like it you can leave?'

TM_Direct · May 22, 2007

I say god bless him.....that's capitalism at its best....heck, if greenspan is worth 150k per speech, I think Edwards is a hell of a bargain.....why single him out? they ALL do it...what do you think Gore charges? Clinton? GW I? giuliani? McCain?

AAAintheBeltway · May 22, 2007

Quote from TM_Direct:

I say god bless him.....that's capitalism at its best....heck, if greenspan is worth 150k per speech, I think Edwards is a hell of a bargain.....why single him out? they ALL do it...what do you think Gore charges? Clinton? GW I? giuliani? McCain?

Edwards reminds me a lot of Jimmy Carter. A sanctimonious hypocrite. He is oh so quick to lecture those who fail to meet his lofty standards, only we find when we look into it that his life is a total fraud. He was a fraud as a trial lawyer, he was a fraud as a senator since he spent half his term running for VP, he is a fraud now, with his gargantuan house, his no work hedge fund "job", his obscene speaker fees for lecturing about "poverty." At least Carter drive a few nails in houses when he wasn't busy trashing his country.

hellrider · May 22, 2007

last time i check, bush is still the president. the buck stops with him. he is the one who authorized the invasion. bloods are in his hands till the end of time.

LT701 · May 22, 2007

Quote from hellrider:

last time i check, bush is still the president. the buck stops with him. he is the one who authorized the invasion. bloods are in his hands till the end of time.

i've never said anything positive about bush, ever.

but i blame those who gave him the power that belonged to congress, not the president

who can name one thing that edwards did right in his short political career

ever noticed that that issue is never brought up?