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Economic impact of possible attack on Iran
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Quote from science_trader:
US history has already proved that the only way this country had found to solve its problems was violence.
Try to forget for a while all deaths that resulted from this culture of violence and think of this poor child who went to bed and never woke up just because some stupid and under-cultured american politicians had decided his country had to be bombed. This child had asked nothing : neither from americans, neither from integrists. He is dead for nothing, and even if his death has saved thousands of potentially threatened lives in the US or somewhere else in the world, it's not worth, really not worth.
ST, as most people all over the world do, I agree with you that this is an unjust "war".
To say that US is unique in its policy of violence, is simply not true. Bloody wars have been integral to mankind throughout history.
In my opinion, US has recently drifted in its own type of "Dark Ages", ruled by fanatics. But the voices of sanity HAVE to come from WITHIN the US.
I would urge Americans to read the work of Mark Twain, one of the best known american writers:
It was written a century ago, but it's equally valid today:
"There has never been a just one, never an honorable one--on the part of the instigator of the war. I can see a million years ahead, and this rule will never change in so many as half a dozen instances. The loud little handful--as usual--will shout for the war. The pulpit will-- warily and cautiously--object--at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, "It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it." Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity.
Before long you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the platform, and free speech strangled by hordes of furious men who in their secret hearts are still at one with those stoned speakers--as earlier-- but do not dare to say so. And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."
http://www.mtwain.com/The_Mysterious_Stranger/8.html
http://www.loc.gov/rr/hispanic/1898/twain.html
It's important for citizens in a democracy to serve in the army, because it helps one gain a perspective on things and become better citizens.
"Education and atheism are the most important weapons to fight terrorism. Remember: there is no such thing as an atheist terrorist. Because when you don't believe in god and heaven, you have nothing to die for, and all you want to do is live happily as long as possible and improve the life of others."Quote from Maxprofit$:
No religion killed more people than the religion of Christ! Most of the muslim hatred toward us comes from the middle ages. We kicked serious asses!
No causes created more war than religious causes.
Anybody tried having NO religion??? When you know that there is no god and no afterlife, you know that death is the WORST thing ever! You don't wish it to anybody even your worst enemy!
I won't die for my country. There is no one son of a bitch on earth that is worth MY life. It's mine. If everybody told that to himself we would have peace.
http://www.dutch.rael.org/pages/raeltv/transcripts/thereisnogod.html
Quote from Maxprofit$:
Hitler rose to power playing with the hatred and fear of his population.
What is Bush doing that is so different???
If history can teach us anything it's that a bad man can highjack a democracy and make it invade the world for his own private selfishness. And all this rising legetimatly to power and manipulating the media, telling lies and making people affraid.
Cause if the population isn't scared of anything, the government as nothing to protect it from, the government has no power! That's the basics, true since the dawn of time.
Now everybody is looking throughout the world for this to happen again and forget to look in their own backyard!
Where there no terrorists during the cold war? Is it really a new phenomenon? Cause we never heard about it before. How a coincidence that a new ennemy rose when the previous one collapsed.
Would 9/11 have happened under Clinton watch? Seriously?
I saw 9/11 as a declaration of war. Why then didn't they try to attack again and again?? It IS a war. If attacking the US can be so easy, why as there been no other ATTEMPTS?? Not failled attempts, no attempts at all!
If YOU were a terrorist, wouldn't you keep the surprise effect to get the White House first and aim for the towers later?
What's the false alert / terrorists attack ratio now?
Anybody can make a link between 9/11 and the burning of the german parliament by Hitler himself? He blamed it on communist terrorists and got more popular than ever and used it to consolidate his power after that event.
At least Hitler took a bankrupt country to make it a superpower. Bush took a superpower and is turning it to bankruptcy.
What the rest of the civilized world thought in secret on that sad morning: "Well they had it coming."
Kill one american we'll kill 10000 of your men. Is that your moto?
"I'll give you your war!" -Linden Johnson. Yet in the media at this time the official version was the Viets attacked firsts. Read history books about this war, what is happening now is a clone!
No religion killed more people than the religion of Christ! Most of the muslim hatred toward us comes from the middle ages. We kicked serious asses!
No causes created more war than religious causes.
Anybody tried having NO religion??? When you know that there is no god and no afterlife, you know that death is the WORST thing ever! You don't wish it to anybody even your worst enemy!
I won't die for my country. There is no one son of a bitch on earth that is worth MY life. It's mine. If everybody told that to himself we would have peace.
No need to regorgitate here all the nonsense you heard at the last gathering of your marxist circle. This is a capitalist board for people who trade on the capitalist markets.
Quote from estrader:
No need to regorgitate here all the nonsense you heard at the last gathering of your marxist circle. This is a capitalist board for people who trade on the capitalist markets.
Oh oh, again a guy with a great culture who will let us know what is capitalism... We are all listening and waiting for you classes Mr estrader.