EBAY and FNM

Quote from inandlong:

I think EBAY is setting up to be a very lucrative short.

The weekly chart is very extended above the 40 and 200 sma's. The macd has crossed over, and could produce a divergence during this current rally.

The daily chart for the first time in almost a year has been trading below the 40/50 sma, recovering yesteday and today. This follows another set of significant divergences on the macd, and the first time macd has been below zero for almost a year as well.

And the PE is 99+. C'mon.... in a value-driven market? :eek:

They need to split this thing 2:1 or 3:1 or it is going to the bottom of the bay...imo.

Thing is these earnings are growing. If the market tops IMO lotta better shorts on a pct. basis.
 
Quote from m22au:

thankyou, great reading. Looks like Rogers is from the school of Buffett and p2.

Forgive my ignorance - is he a frequent wearer of bow ties ?

I'm not sure if I am mixing him up with another person I see on TV with the same surname


Yes...Jim wears bowties often when on television interviews...I have not seen him lately...but I don't watch much financial tv anymore.
 
Quote from super-ego:

Thing is these earnings are growing. If the market tops IMO lotta better shorts on a pct. basis.
Yeah that is a key point super', about the earnings. NXTL comes to mind when it went from a PE of 70-80 to below 10 in one quarter.

Hey, the other shorts you are looking at... any you might like to share? No prob if the answer is no.
 
FNM and to a lesser extent FRE are the two pillars of the ENTIRE derivatives market.

That market is show cracks all over...

If you thought LTCM was bad...wait until you get a load of FNM.
 
Quote from TraderD007:

FNM and to a lesser extent FRE are the two pillars of the ENTIRE derivatives market.

That market is show cracks all over...

If you thought LTCM was bad...wait until you get a load of FNM.

Don't disagree, BUT tad different dynamics.
 
Thanks uptik

Quote from uptik2000:



Yes...Jim wears bowties often when on television interviews...I have not seen him lately...but I don't watch much financial tv anymore.
 
All these issues with FNM/FRE are very well known. The Treasury, Fed Reserve and Wall Street establishment will do whatever is necessary to protect these golden geese.

Saying they are highly leveraged does not put them in the LTCM category. I seriuosly doubt they are exposed to Russian junk bonds, etc. Their problem is a simple one, namely hedging against prepayment risk for their huge mortgage portfolio. Their size and the dynamics of hedging create problems, but they have the best financial engineers in the business plus the backing of the government.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

All these issues with FNM/FRE are very well known. The Treasury, Fed Reserve and Wall Street establishment will do whatever is necessary to protect these golden geese.

Saying they are highly leveraged does not put them in the LTCM category. I seriuosly doubt they are exposed to Russian junk bonds, etc. Their problem is a simple one, namely hedging against prepayment risk for their huge mortgage portfolio. Their size and the dynamics of hedging create problems, but they have the best financial engineers in the business plus the backing of the government.

Thanks TripleA.....
 
Do we have to go through this whole eBay deal again? Yes, it is over priced, yes it is overvalued, yes it is extended on the weekly. Although you didn't mention it, I do not like the management. The CEO is a big options hog and was implicated in the Goldman ipo spinning scandal. As a female CEO, she gets the same sort of free pass the media gives Carly, who demonstrated the old Lucent touch again last night.

But this is a cult stock that also happens to have an incredible franchise that cannot be duplicated or challenged. Earnings are meaningless, value is meaningless. Unless the public decides to pull significant moeny from mutual funds, this one does not get hammered down to value land.

Of course, just as with FNM, it will have pullbacks and they could make for a nice short. I just don't see a big disaster here.
 
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